Wouldn't do any good no matter how many times you booted that arse. IMO that comes from having been bailed out way too many times and not enough responsibility in the formative years.
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Wouldn't do any good no matter how many times you booted that arse. IMO that comes from having been bailed out way too many times and not enough responsibility in the formative years.
mattinky
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Been there, done that! When I was a kid growing up in Indiana my neighbor custom baled hay & straw for people and I worked for him from the ages of 13-17. Can you see these kids today out in 95* heat and humidity stacking square bales of alfalfa that weigh about 100 lbs. and doing it all day sometimes 7 days a week?
I'd love to have that Mitsubishi & the 028! Man, if you had offered me that truck when I was 16 I would have been in heaven! What comes around goes around though..........they'le need something one day............
Matt
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Bowtie
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Makes me sad and worried about what this country is turning into. I see things like that way too often, we all do. I dont know what it will take, but somehow things need to turn around. I know damn well my kids will appreciate what they get, or they wont have anything long, but a sore butt.
I agree with you guys 100%. The problem I have is being 17, extremely willing to work and work hard, but not being able to find a blasted job.
ropensaddle
Feel Lucky
When you get home give your kids a hug for us, they deserve itI have my grandson helping with firewood, he is four and a half and I love
him enough to make sure he don't turn to ****. He really loves to help his
paw paw, he is not a lot of help yet mainly scratches my trees with his toy saw! I hope his interest stays as I see him running my biz someday!
treeclimber jul
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Hard work and responsibility are sometimes hard to find these days. Wood Cutter, I was just in Idaho working 16 hour days driving beet topper, I'll say that Idaho kids know how to work though
BIGBORE577
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Observation/Opinion:
Video Games = Electronic Crack
They can never get enough.
I can imagine a conversation between the suits and engineers of a large off shore electronics manufacturer 30 years ago: "Introduce these games to American youth and it will rob them of all ambition, drive, work ethic and money. We will take the jobs they can not fill and leverage the failing corporations due to low productivity. Soon we will own them. Spare no expense in further development of these games." If so, it seems to be working.... most kids certainly aren't, at least to their potential. Not the only problem we have today, but surely a contributing factor IMHO.
Video Games = Electronic Crack
They can never get enough.
I can imagine a conversation between the suits and engineers of a large off shore electronics manufacturer 30 years ago: "Introduce these games to American youth and it will rob them of all ambition, drive, work ethic and money. We will take the jobs they can not fill and leverage the failing corporations due to low productivity. Soon we will own them. Spare no expense in further development of these games." If so, it seems to be working.... most kids certainly aren't, at least to their potential. Not the only problem we have today, but surely a contributing factor IMHO.
ropensaddle
Feel Lucky
Parenting not children is the problem kids learn behavior!
hornett22
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next time........
super glue a bus token to his forehead and let him see how far he gets.what a marroon! you did the right thing by trying and by selling it.you can't help those who won't help themselves.
super glue a bus token to his forehead and let him see how far he gets.what a marroon! you did the right thing by trying and by selling it.you can't help those who won't help themselves.
BIGBORE577
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I won't disagree with you on that point. However, I've know several families where the parents are hard working model citizens, pillars of the community so to speak and their kids are dead beats. I must admit I certainly don't know the particulars on how they've raised their children. However, at first glance something surely seems amiss. I think using parents as a scapegoat for all their children's misdoings is not exactly fair, while admittedly it is often a contributing factor. Like my example above, as stated, video games are not the sole reason for all of today's youths short comings but nor are their parents. I also believe, which concedes to your point once again, that one of the biggest problems are parents that came up from nothing and have struggled most of their lives, giving their children all the things they themselves went without. In essence spoiling them and having them believe that all their wants are entitlements ergo another reason for a non-existent work ethic. Well, I've taken this thread about as far off topic as I'm sure it can possibly go. Time to go find a thread on chainsaws.
That's all I have to say about that.Forest Gump
ropensaddle
Feel Lucky
My dad never needed to but always said, I brought you intoI won't disagree with you on that point. However, I've know several families where the parents are hard working model citizens, pillars of the community so to speak and their kids are dead beats. I must admit I certainly don't know the particulars on how they've raised their children. However, at first glance something surely seems amiss. I think using parents as a scapegoat for all their children's misdoings is not exactly fair, while admittedly it is often a contributing factor. Like my example above, as stated, video games are not the sole reason for all of today's youths short comings but nor are their parents. I also believe, which concedes to your point once again, that one of the biggest problems are parents that came up from nothing and have struggled most of their lives, giving their children all the things they themselves went without. In essence spoiling them and having them believe that all their wants are entitlements ergo another reason for a non-existent work ethic. Well, I've taken this thread about as far off topic as I'm sure it can possibly go. Time to go find a thread on chainsaws.
Forest Gump
this world and if you acted like the punk next door, I will take
you out of it. Tough love is needed even more so now, and
yes it is not always the parents as they're are demon seed.
spacemule
The Peanut Gallery
ropensaddle
Feel Lucky
Your dad was Bill Cosby?
Was the times space first man on the moon etc.
My dad was a depression era farmer that served in Korea,
then worked for the veteran twenty five years.
He had life way tougher than I had it for sure
but I assure you, no video games or anything
else until chores were done and they took most
of the day.
On Dec 21 this year I was on my way to work ,going in late at 5:30 am,last day before Christmas.Came upon a wreck 4 boys ,3 16 yr olds and a 21 yr old neighbor boy who was the driver.Out in a Jeep,no top wet roads,no experience with Jeeps,rolled it into some trees .One 16 year old was down,bad bleeding out of his ears.Helped squad back board him and move him up the hill and load .My wonderful neighbor boy,driver ,bailed and left everyone.POS.Found out the 16 yr old died Christmas day.Driver in jail awaiting charges,he was already on parole for previous charges.2 families damaged for life.
It's hard to understand the thinking of some people,NOTHING is their fault.No responsibility for anything.
http://www.wlwt.com/newsarchive/14930955/detail.html
Just my venting for the season I guess.Didn't mean to hi jack thread.
Russ
It's hard to understand the thinking of some people,NOTHING is their fault.No responsibility for anything.
http://www.wlwt.com/newsarchive/14930955/detail.html
Just my venting for the season I guess.Didn't mean to hi jack thread.
Russ
Kogafortwo
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This is why I am really selective about the volunteer work I do. I will help anyone once. If you let your property revert back to a landfill after I cleaned it up, and you have an able-bodied high school dropout 17-year old son sitting around the house, I quit. Been there.
logbutcher
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Dope Slap Time
Rant away.....
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Around here you can find the Mexicans hanging around any of the home centers/lumberyards looking for work. Any kind of work. The kind of work most gringos won't do. One of the finest compliments you will ever earn is when some one says "you work like a Mexican".
If I were you I wouldn't advice some one "slap around" anyone. If I was a ModGod I would have banned you by now. Who is next, the Jews? That kind of comment can bring a forum to a crashing halt.
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LOL...Yup, you really have raised cows. Tarped stacks outside are a PITA...untarp and retarp everytime you feed. Our old hay barn needs bale stacks in each corner and a row down the middle to keep it's shape.
Back on topic...I agree with the ones who figure that one chance is enough. If you help someone and they make an effort to help themselves they're worth it. If they spit on the hand you hold out to them...they're a cull and get treated accordingly.
My kids were raised around logging and ranching and they all did their share...and more. That's probably why they were so anxious to go to college and become something more than they were.
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I also helped on a farm. My grandmothers sister had a large farm in Iowa that I would go to visit on summer break. I worked my tail off from sun up to sun down...........most of the time. I usually had a day or two to just screw around and ride the four wheeler. My grandfather/mother also had a summer home in Wisconsin, I had to cut and chop wood for the stove and heater. Granted I had a chain saw to cut the wood, but a hand axle, big stump, and wedges for chopping/splitting and making kindling. Todays youth has no idea what real work is.
