Stihl MS 661 having the bog blues

[MustangMike]

The 362 is very smooth, and has good power for it's size, but is just a long way away from being a 661. Enjoy the 362, I really like mine, but it is my small saw. Hope they figure out (or replace) your 661. A shame they are having problems even after the recall, and I'm also disappointed that they have not done more to resolve it on a timely basis.

I presume the 441 C was also not available. I have heard there is a production problem.

 

[Deets066]

Hope all turns out well with your 661, I've been reading along throughout this whole thread. It's starting to irritate me that they can't figure your saw out

 

[CR888]

Between a 660xb, 390xb and 661xb I know which one I'd keep. The balance, weight and power is just harmony

Stop saying stuff like this....its costly...it's hard to deny, the 661 ticks all the boxes!

 

[treesmith]

Stop saying stuff like this....its costly...it's hard to deny, the 661 ticks all the boxes!

Yeah, it really does.
Talk to Randy, he'll fix you up with a hell of a saw and cheaper than you can buy a stock one here

 

[user 64030]

441 then! heh

Kinda my thoughts. 441 is much closer to the 661 than a 362. The mtronic 441 has been around longer as well i believe.

dw

 

[funky sawman]

Well today not so much luck. the new 362 has a rich bog when blipping the trigger and dies randomly. Can a guy get a new saw anymore that runs right?? Its really noticeable when feathering the throttle while trimming the holding wood felling trees. blip it 3 times real quick then hit the throttle hard and she stumbles and throws out a bunch of smoke..... Seems like the opposite problem that the 661 had, it was too lean of accelerator pump and the 362 is pumping too much. Definatly a carb problem

 

[funky sawman]

Ohh and why in gods green earth does stihl put an accelerator pump in their carbs??

 

[redoakman]

Funky sounds like saws don't like ya . . time to retire yet lol.

 

[funky sawman]

well my 241cm is still flawless, except the bar that I already wore out. What is the standard compression of a 362cm??? the one I got is at 140# with about 1 gallon of fuel. That seems low to me for a stihl. That 661 out of the box had 175# and my 241cm when it was new had 160# now its got 165#

 

[MustangMike]

Almost sounds like to try to get them to F U???

Don't know what compression my 362 had or has, but it runs flawlessly for me (it did need a reset once). It is my favorite saw for anything 16" or less. Very smooth, very fast.

 

[Deets066]

Well today not so much luck. the new 362 has a rich bog when blipping the trigger and dies randomly. Can a guy get a new saw anymore that runs right?? Its really noticeable when feathering the throttle while trimming the holding wood felling trees. blip it 3 times real quick then hit the throttle hard and she stumbles and throws out a bunch of smoke..... Seems like the opposite problem that the 661 had, it was too lean of accelerator pump and the 362 is pumping too much. Definatly a carb problem

This is reinforcement why I like the older stihls.

 

[nitehawk55]

Well today not so much luck. the new 362 has a rich bog when blipping the trigger and dies randomly. Can a guy get a new saw anymore that runs right?? Its really noticeable when feathering the throttle while trimming the holding wood felling trees. blip it 3 times real quick then hit the throttle hard and she stumbles and throws out a bunch of smoke..... Seems like the opposite problem that the 661 had, it was too lean of accelerator pump and the 362 is pumping too much. Definatly a carb problem

Why the need to "blip" the throttle ? Perhaps you are messing up the M-tronic setting doing that .

 

[Moparmyway]

Blipping can be usefull ................ after a long cut, its easy to get some needed oil to the chain quickly by blipping

Blipping is also usefull if you have close neighbors and you really want to annoy them

 

[Chris-PA]

Ohh and why in gods green earth does stihl put an accelerator pump in their carbs??

Extra fuel is required for acceleration - either you set the idle and idle transition rich all the time or you provide the extra fuel with a pump and set the mixture correct.

 

[Moparmyway]

Here we go with an update today. I was doing a thinning and pruning job today and I needed the longer length of the 32" 661 to reach some large grand fir limbs. When the saw is running full throttle while the bar is pointed to the sky it runs really rich, four stroken like crazy, then when bar is horizontal it revs a lot higher. Still sounds like a carb issue to me.

Mine does not bog when the bar is vertical, it just has a very slight hesitation when throttle blipping after the second or third blip when coming off of a cut.

After the muffler mod and air filter was added to mine, it stumbled (4 stroking) in the cut alot, then it cleared up by the end of the second tank.

Also, I am running a MaxFlow air filter with my muffler mod, so the slight bog could be due to the modifications

 

[MustangMike]

My 362 has been flawless since I did the re set procedure. I would not hesitate to get another M-Tronic saw, and it gives me piece of mind to know that it will adjust for changing conditions on it's own.

 

[Trx250r180]

A saw should be able to have crisp throttle response limbing and bucking ,a bog is bs ,my 461 was a pain in the a$$ to limb with when i got it ,kept bouncing off the rev limiter limbing ,the 460 coil fixed that saw though ,seems like over the years you have had bad luck with saws ,mostly auto tunes by the looks of it ,am sure you are not the only one out there though ,the others are just not speaking up about it .

 

[SAWMIKAZE]

A saw should be able to have crisp throttle response limbing and bucking ,a bog is bs ,my 461 was a pain in the a$$ to limb with when i got it ,kept bouncing off the rev limiter limbing ,the 460 coil fixed that saw though ,seems like over the years you have had bad luck with saws ,mostly auto tunes by the looks of it ,am sure you are not the only one out there though ,the others are just not speaking up about it .

Spoken , .. my 362 needs a coil

But i get it thursday..so no big deal.

 

[the GOAT]

A saw should be able to have crisp throttle response limbing and bucking ,a bog is bs ,my 461 was a pain in the a$$ to limb with when i got it ,kept bouncing off the rev limiter limbing ,the 460 coil fixed that saw though ,seems like over the years you have had bad luck with saws ,mostly auto tunes by the looks of it ,am sure you are not the only one out there though ,the others are just not speaking up about it .

Blasphemy, the ms362cm is awesome!!!!

Spoken , .. my 362 needs a coil

But i get it thursday..so no big deal.

Ignored.

 

[funky sawman]

Blasphemy........ you shall stone me......off with his head