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Nate, I tripped and fell, hand first, on the pile of slash. There them buggers were waiting for me.
 
Ya. I'd be very unhappy if'n I couldn't play the guitar any more:(

Sorry to hear that happened..




I got my pinky toe transfixed and nailed to my 4th toe by a locust thorn once. As usual, I was crying before it happened, so nobody really noticed:cry:
 
NML, what's with this Mr. stuff? I may be older than you but I'm still pretty much a knucklehead. If those Stihls didn't whistle so much I might consider benching the MACs.

As to what I am going to do, I don't know yet. I have a life long affliction of trying to understand cause and effect. And I can't seem to get my arms around this one - maybe that is why doctors practice medicine. I am nagged however by a childhood injury that I didn't timely disclose and was thus left untreated. I don't want to go there again. Will seek 2nd opinion on surgery (and what type) before committing to it. My s-i-l is a freshly minted PT and he is weighing in as well.

Thanks, Ron
 
Ya. I'd be very unhappy if'n I couldn't play the guitar any more:(

Sorry to hear that happened..




I got my pinky toe transfixed and nailed to my 4th toe by a locust thorn once. As usual, I was crying before it happened, so nobody really noticed:cry:
Or a thumb nailed to a ceiling baton with the pneumatic nail gun. But dats a whole nuther story.
 
NML, what's with this Mr. stuff? I may be older than you but I'm still pretty much a knucklehead. If those Stihls didn't whistle so much I might consider benching the MACs.

As to what I am going to do, I don't know yet. I have a life long affliction of trying to understand cause and effect. And I can't seem to get my arms around this one - maybe that is why doctors practice medicine. I am nagged however by a childhood injury that I didn't timely disclose and was thus left untreated. I don't want to go there again. Will seek 2nd opinion on surgery (and what type) before committing to it. My s-i-l is a freshly minted PT and he is weighing in as well.

Thanks, Ron

There aren't really many choices. Not good choices. Ask yourself if you're willing to put up with being debilitated for the rest of your life. Are you willing to put up with the pain? Are you willing to wait and to risk the injury getting worse to the point where surgery might not be as effective as it could be now? Pick the worst day you've had with your injury and ask yourself if that's how you'd want to live every day.
I let a back injury go untreated until I began experiencing numbness in my legs. I finally consented to surgery. The surgeon told me that if I'd waited any longer I would have lost the use of my legs. I was dumb and stubborn and I got away with it...barely.
Surgery is scary stuff but the ones I've had were beneficial in the long run. Healing is often slow and painful and it seems to dominate your whole life. But it's healing.
 
Bob, thanks. I am fortunate to have good contacts in the medical world for additional opinions. I am just a little taken back to find that treatment for such a common injury is so debated by medical professionals. Even the "success rate" seems to be challenged. I am beginning to understand why the surgeon would not give me a straight up recommendation despite me asking him several times. He would only commit to "Its your choice." If it is my choice then I am going to get educated before making it. I've paid a price a time or two for being tough. Never regretted any surgery except I do miss my gall bladder. Ron
 
Jon, that is what I am reading. When I focus on the sleepless nights and the worsening pain I'm ready for the knife, but when I back up and do some research I see no reason just to jump at it. I haven't gotten my second opinion yet but I am less than thrilled at the thought of open surgery, which is my present surgeon's method. Until I decide, I will lay off the chainsaws. I have already gladly given up the shovel. Told my wife last night that I couldn't take out the garbage anymore - to which she replied, "I guess you will be having that surgery after all." I took it. Ron
 
Ron, my professional opinion is that getting the shoulder "tightened" could be very dangerous. If some South African bad guys ever put you in a straight jacket, tie it to a cinderblock, and dump you in the ocean next to u'r super-hot, but unfortunately deceased girlfriend, you won't be able to intentionally dislocate the shoulder, wriggle out of the jacket, and escape. If you do have surgery, make sure that exact scenario is listed on the possible risks in the "informed consent" form.
 
I can tell you from experience that if I diagnose you with a head and neck cancer, you are much less likely to die if you have good insurance, or lots of money. The county hospital does not provide the same level of expertise as MD Anderson. BTW, even tho they have more money than God, MD Anderson is not particularly generous with its time or care.
We've a public system and no-blame public accident compensation (ACC)/insurance scheme here in NZ. All in all, it's a darn nice system, but like many, is open to abuse. It is that abuse that pisses me off because at some point the private lobby will coral the public angst about the various rip-off artists scamming the system into a successful bid to open the system up to more privatisation.

Kiwi's won't know how good we had it until we lose it and want it back.

Even though I pay through business levies, I paid every stinking cent of my estimated (know enough people to get a fair handle on the costs and they are not cheap) ACL costs back via volly contributions in the form of buying extra cover through the pubic scheme that I resolved never to call upon. End of the day it was my own stupidity that has lead to almost every single claim I have made against the public system. If I'm going to get all rowdy at a PT or doctor's visit, in full earshot of other patients and medical staff, calling out the blatant abuse and ripping off of the system by anyone I see doing it, be they patients gaming the system or professionals in the system itself, then I figured I better have clean hands myself.

No, I'm not coming back twice a week to get a dressing changed just because the med staff tell me "don't worry, it's free on ACC" when I can do that myself and come in if any probs. No, I'm not happy about twice weekly PT routines that nobody can adequately justify when I could easily handle the work myself and just have a weekly or fortnightly phone consult or visit to see I'm progressing as per the clearly laid out rehab schedule. No, I don't give a rat's arse if you've (*edit* by this I mean the specialists helping me, not anyone reading this) got a freak'n mortgage to pay on the three story house in the expensive 'burbs that you and your cat rattle around in on your days off. The public should demand the health budget excesses get trimmed right back and distributed to paying overworked nurses and Drs more or giving them a more sane work/life balance or time off and funding for more genuine research into areas of need, or more beds in hospitals or to avoid the needless deaths of people waiting on hospital operating lists, etc. It really winds me up to see the utterly pathetic greed that cleverly masquerades as good intentions and professionalism in our healthcare sector.

And don't get me started on the idiots that demand public health care every second week for a case of the sniffles
 
Never really had decent insurance until the last few years, and it taint all that grand...

So when I did get banged up I either self medicated as in splints, tape, occasional staples, whiskey, and rest, or for the really bad ones hope DSHS would cover it. Rehab was never discussed or an option, for any of the dozen or so broken bones, since I was lucky just to have gotten stitched back together, I really can't complain much. However, the current BS with the medical morons is out of hand, 20k for an MRI on a 30 year old machine, 15k for an 8hr stay for a walk out procedure, and then the surgeon wants his cut and the gas passer, the labs... Then the jack wagons have the nerve to complain they ain't got the funding blah blah
 

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