Which Echo model?

[cinari]

Got it. Thank you.

 

[Deleted member 149229]

The cs 400 is a picco chain. 3/8 low profile cutters

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Yep.

 

[grack]

I like the reds too.

 

[Matt Hogden]

I love the reds

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[1Alpha1]

If I wasn't invested so heavily in Stihl, I'd be looking at Shindaiwa.

 

[Matt Hogden]

If I wasn't invested so heavily in Stihl, I'd be looking at Shindaiwa.

Branch out mate. You dont need to carry tools or spare parts for Shindaiwas. Tough as nails and nothing chinese in them. Pure Japanese quality.

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[James Miller]

590 for on the ground and a 355t for in the tree would make a good pair if you go the 2 saw direction. You could have a ported 590 for less then a stock 620p.

 

[bikemike]

590 for on the ground and a 355t for in the tree would make a good pair if you go the 2 saw direction. You could have a ported 590 for less then a stock 620p.

Very true. And I'm somewhat obsessed with the 620pw and would like to test ride 1 but I think I need a 066 or 660 for my bigger work that the oh34 av super shouldn't take on

 

[cinari]

If I wasn't invested so heavily in Stihl, I'd be looking at Shindaiwa.

How so, my T-10 brother? How are they different than Echo?

I was comparing the Shindaiwa 491s to the Echo CS-490, and they appear to be the exact same saw. Same displacement, price, weight, etc. I could not tell a difference other than color, chrome-lined piston (omitted from the CS-490 specs), and two-year professional warranty on the 491.

I called Shindaiwa today to get more information, and got the canned answer that Echo and Shindaiwa are now one. When I pressed them for details, she compared some part numbers, and stated that they appear to be the exact same saw branded under different names. Granted, she did not radiate confidence.

I don't want to crush anyone's image of the brand, but I just don't see any differences. It does seem odd though that Echo offers a two-year professional warranty for the 491s for the same price as the CS-490.

I'd do an onsite comparison, but my local dealer, who sells both, only stocks Echo.

 

[Matt Hogden]

Generally i have found that the Shindaiwas have higher output than the echos of the same size. Different ignitions, porting etc.

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[cinari]

Generally i have found that the Shindaiwas have higher output than the echos of the same size. Different ignitions, porting etc.

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Good to know. Thank you.

 

[Matt Hogden]

Awwwwww crap, i just did a parts cross reference for the CS490 and 491S on the major parts.
Cylinder = same
Piston = same
Carb = same
Muffler = same
Flywheel = same
Coil = same
Base Gasket = same
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Well it definitely appears that they are the same except fpr warranty and colour.
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Well i would go for the one with the best deal on price.
But i do like my reds!

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[cinari]

I appreciate the sanity check.

 

[Matt Hogden]

Well the old reds were higher specs than the equivalant Echos

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