Federal Airtight 288
Do you consider this to be a fireplace insert?
Unbelievable heat.
Do you consider this to be a fireplace insert?
Unbelievable heat.
Hey what did Santa leave in the hard plastic orange container?
I think you should give a local woodstove dealer a call and find out what they recommend. I'm no expert, but I would think either option of fireplace insert or woodstove insert would require a chimney liner, and some slight modifications, but I'm sure there are options for you.
Currently in KS it's 10 degrees outside and a toasty 74 inside with the hearthstone homestead.
I run an insert too and it does "ok".
My house is "T" shaped and its at the bottom on the "T" and a couple feet lower than the rest of the house. it does an OK job of keeping the attached rooms warm, but the extremities get cold.
sounds like I have an airflow problem and the blower doesn't move alot of air.
Im open to suggestions?
1. There is a block off plate at the top of the fireplace. close it and no smoke goes up the chimney.1. Do you have a blockoff plate where the damper was?
2. Is your chimney SS lined?
3. If your insert is designed for a 8" liner, do you have an 8" liner, or, if your insert is designed for a 6" liner, do you have a 6" liner? (Either answer is correct as long as your insert & liner are the same diameter.) What you don't want is a 'slammer install' ("slammer install": insert shoved into a fireplace opening vented through a clay tile lined chimney)
5. Is your liner fully insulated?
Now, if yes to 1,2,3 & 4 above, then:
6. Have you tried blowing cold air toward the stove room? I'm NOT saying blow cold air onto the face of the stove, just a gentle air flow towards the stove room. We use a very small desk top style fan (6" diameter) set in our bedroom hallway blowing cooler air towards our stove room.
7. Do you have any ceiling fans? If yes, set them to draw air UP from the room - NOT blowing down.
Shari
1. There is a block off plate at the top of the fireplace. close it and no smoke goes up the chimney.
You need a blockoff plate at the bottom of the chimney - which blocks heated air from tunneling up the outside of your liner. You are losing heated air otherwise.
You also need a block off plate at the top. Both of the blockoff plates I mention are positioned around the circumference of your 6" liner. Here is an example of what I am talking about: Making a Sheet Metal Block-Off plate for a Masonry Fireplace
2. Stainless steel flue is the same sized inside at the top and bottom about 6".There is also about a 10" stainless shell around the inner flue. the "chimney" itself is siding and other than some bracing straps, doesn't come near the steel flue.
Sounds like the 6" is not insulated and it should be.
3. same sized top and bottom.
Fine.
4. if there is any insulation, I would be surprised.
Since this is an exterior chimney you definitely will benefit by addition of insulation around your 6" liner (not the 10" liner). Not just 'any' insulation. Check with your stove shop to get the proper type.
5. One door and one window from the kitchen into the den with the fireplace. Ive set up a fan to draw warm air out of the den, but its usually in the way.
Don't try to draw "warm air out"- you want to draw "cool air in" - yeah, sounds counter intuitive but it works. Cool air is near the floor, draw this cool air into the stove room. Hot air rises and will exit near the ceiling = natural convection: you just want to 'encourage' natural convection.
6. Yes, ceiling fan in the den blowing up. ceiling in the den is about a foot lower than the ceiling in the kitchen.
Sounds good here.
my insert.
I dont really have an opening like a masonary fireplace.
The firebox is supported inside another metal box that where the blower is housed.[/QUOTE]
You have a zero clearance fireplace - not an insert.
Shari
You have a zero clearance fireplace - not an insert.
Shari
You have a zero clearance fireplace - not an insert.
Shari
ok, whats the difference? I bought the house 10 years ago, Ive lived in the neighborhood for about 18 years and I think the addition with the fireplace was done in the mid 80s
my insert.
I dont really have an opening like a masonary fireplace.
The firebox is supported inside another metal box that where the blower is housed.
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