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Stihl MS261 C-M, runs very well, powerful, yet light and handles good.

Prefer M-Tronic saws, they run great and seem to give less problems. I have a 261 C-M and have used a few other C-M's.

My advice on a 40cc saw is to skip it and go with a Stihl 261 with a 16" bar, it's light and powerful. I had a 241 cm and sold it, when this old man needs a light rear handle saw, I reach for my 261 cm with a 16" bar.

Have a 16" bar on my 261 cm, it works very well as a farm saw.

I would hate to be the one renting chainsaws out to weekend warriors. If you send pre-mix with them, some are still likely to use their mix and keep yours.

We might get lucky, the 162 and 172 could turn out to be better saws than the 170. About all you can say about a 170, it is a pretty good saw for the money.

Stihl guy here, but between those two saws for around the same money each, I would buy the new Echo CS-590.

If it was me and I just had to get rid of one, I would keep the 362 C-M. The 362 is a newer saw, lighter weight, parts should be available longer, and it has more belt horsepower.

Plus one prefering M-tronic saws. Have a 261 C-M and it runs great.

I have a 261 CM with a 16" bar and like it really well. Like someone already said, if you are going above a 18" bar and plan to keep the bar completely buried in hardwood a lot, move up a size or two in the Stihl Professional line.

Sort of like buying a pig in a poke, your not going to know what you have until you open the poke. Can't see somebody stripping parts off of a 500I without a really good reason.

Check out the Stihl 261 or 261 C-M, very nice saws but will likely be higher priced than the Echo 4510.

Not all dealers are capable of fully servicing the M-Tronic engine.

I just bought one about a month ago, my MS 261 C-M just has "MS 261 C" on the side of the saw.

Go for it man! The way folks love oil threads on this forum, some members might be looking near Frankfort Kentucky for one Farmer_Nate.

Seems more people using the battery Sawzall type saws than battery chainsaws on small limbs etc.

The Prefered Chainsaw 2 Cycle Oil Poll Results: 1: Echo Red Armour............. 27 votes / 35% 2: Amsoil Sabre..................... 15 votes / 19% 3: Stihl HP Ultra.................... 12 votes / 15% 4: Amsoil Dominator.......... 10 votes / 13% 5: Husqarna XP+..................... 5 votes / 6%...

Current Top 3 in the Oil Poll: 1: Echo Red Armor 2: Amsoil Saber 3: Stihl HP Ultra

I would liked to have used a more complete list of oils on the poll, unfortunately this forum only allows 10 choices on a poll, that's why I stated if your prefered oil is not on the list to type it at the beginning of a reply to be counted in the poll results thread. Not perfect, but it was the...

I use saws to work on the farm and lawn service, but I'm like you, buy what I want and I will be the one using them. No bean counters or supervisers to answer as to why I paid $100 more for one brand over the other.