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Discussion in 'Chainsaw' started by BJD85, Jun 18, 2019.

  1. BJD85

    BJD85 ArboristSite Operative

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    So through lots of googling and pratice ive gotten decent at holding an angle with a standard oregon hand file. Not good not even close to factory but it cuts. Im sharpening a 325 and a 3/8 with 3/16 and 7/32 file. Im getting pretty tempted to buy an electric sharpener made by buffalo. (Lots of good reviews on it). Do you guys use electric sharpeners? Is it worth the money or should I just keep praticing?

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    As a newbie to this, I too have had good luck hand sharpening, but recently picked up a electric chain grinder similar to the Timber Tuff and like it a lot. My times for hand sharpening vs the grinder are about equal once the chain is off for grinding. However, I have noticed that the grinder takes off a bit more meat than hand filing, but for as much as I cut wood, I am fine with that. I am sure some others with much more knowledge than I will be chiming in to help you better with your question. I know some will not ever use a grinder.
     
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    You should practice on 1/4 chain

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    Practice doing it by hand.

    IMO,

    Unless you are doing this for a living and are sharpening a TON of chains daily...... just do it by hand.

    Chain “generally” will last longer because you can get away with taking less off. If you want to, run a skip chain. Less sharpening




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    My mantra as a teenager......
     
  6. BJD85

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    Skip chain does that hace other benifets other than sharpening less? I heard it cutss faster too.

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    Learn to do it by hand with a file.

    I started cutting cordwood for the home and to sell when I was 13; wood was $40 a cord back then. The saw was my my Father's super XL. I learned just using a file without a guide. It did take a while to get good at it.

    Things I learned beside the filing: 1) wear gloves to avoid skinning your knuckles, 2) It's easier with the saw clamped in a bench vise, 3) make sure chain is tensioned properly, 4) every few sharpenings take off the bar, clean the grove, dress the rails with a bastard file by draw filing, flip the bar when re-installing., 4) check the rakers every few sharpenings

    Later I got a Oregon file holder which helped me keep the file at proper depth when filing, but I got by without one for years. I'd get one for new filers. Also get a depth gauge for the rakers.

    Read up on how a chain cuts and how to sharpen before you start learning. Have a sharpie to mark the chain where you start on cutters, inspect the cutters that you have them sharp. Only file a cutter enough to get them sharp, the feel of the file stroke will let you know.

    You also will appreciate not turfing the chain or hitting rocks/metal if you sharpen your own, and be able to dress the chain in the woods if you do.
     
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    Hand filing is always sharper then electric


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    Correctly sharpening is always sharper than incorrectly sharpening....
     
  10. Ted Jenkins

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    Harley you need to do some else productive with your red ram. There are pros and cons on how to keep chips flying. When you become proficient at your hand filing you will not have time to take your chains off and on all the time. Thanks
     
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    Lol. Butchering with a file,
    is just as bad as butchering with a chain grinder,
    sometimes worse.
     
  12. HarleyT

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    I never did find out what that RedRam thing meant....
     
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  13. HarleyT

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    Are the factory chain angles made by a file?
     
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    Hit a rock or nail in a tree and I want that grinder. Normal use, round or square a file does the job.
     
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    If the file is in the proper hands.

    A grinder only works as good as it is set up and operated.
     
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    So you agree?
     
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    "As good as factory" seems to be the bench mark that one uses.
     
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    I agree I can sharpen my chains as good/better than new with a file.

    I started filing in 1973. Back then the best bang for your buck was Carlton chain.
     
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    So what do you think the best chain money can buy today is? Durability cutting speed longevity ECT.

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    I think racer would use if it cut faster.
     
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