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I think the tool lines up so well that it pulls it through smoothly without pulling the bearing out I thought it would also but it didn't on the 361
If they had something that fit in there up against the bearing to make sure I would use it
 
Ridge1 said:
I think the tool lines up so well that it pulls it through smoothly without pulling the bearing out I thought it would also but it didn't on the 361
If they had something that fit in there up against the bearing to make sure I would use it
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Heat is such a helpful thing working with the saws. A good heat gun makes it easy, well easier. I tried an oven and did not like it. No reason to heat the whole case. That's why I said I never used the tool except to bust them. The tool for the other side is different

I never had a seal pucker until the 200t. I unpuckered it quick, Lol. I hear it's almost guaranteed to roll. I will order me a sleeve.


Seals have their own tool
Actually called an installing sleeve 1118 893 4600 on clutch side and press sleeve on Mr. Stubby 1108 893 2405. Neither are expensive at the counter.

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Bedford T said:
Heat is such a helpful thing working with the saws. A good heat gun makes it easy, well easier. I tried an oven and did not like it. No reason to heat the whole case. That's why I said I never used the tool except to bust them. The tool for the other side is different

I never had a seal pucker until the 200t. I unpuckered it quick, Lol. I hear it's almost guaranteed to roll. I will order me a sleeve.


Seals have their own tool
Actually called an installing sleeve 1118 893 4600 on clutch side and press sleeve on Mr. Stubby 1108 893 2405. Neither are expensive at the counter.

http://thechainsawkitguy.com
https://www.youtube.com/the1chainsawguy
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Thanks
Ill check out those tools
Bedford T said:
Heat is such a helpful thing working with the saws. A good heat gun makes it easy, well easier. I tried an oven and did not like it. No reason to heat the whole case. That's why I said I never used the tool except to bust them. The tool for the other side is different

I never had a seal pucker until the 200t. I unpuckered it quick, Lol. I hear it's almost guaranteed to roll. I will order me a sleeve.


Seals have their own tool
Actually called an installing sleeve 1118 893 4600 on clutch side and press sleeve on Mr. Stubby 1108 893 2405. Neither are expensive at the counter.

http://thechainsawkitguy.com
https://www.youtube.com/the1chainsawguy
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The oven and my grill had work great for the two 660s I got frustrated when the o38 didn't work the first time and started on the o36 and rushed and messed up a seal in the case
that's when I started investigating the tools
Just curious Bedford what do you think about your 440 kit that's the next one I'm looking at
 
I love my 440. It was a good kit. Putting the oiler on requires an additional part. Put your worm on and tighten the oiler first time. You will see.

The cylinder ran great, sounded mean. It had a quirky shake to it. When I put the meteor on it that went away. The FarmerTec cylinder kit looked great after use. I am collecting parts to build another so I will reuse it.

The oiler has a little arm on it and it had to be bent slightly sometimes or get a oem or your sprocket will cut through it.

It's powerful, runs, oils good. Weighs less than a 380 or 660 and still a big boy. I think it's an unappreciated saw.

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I want to run a Meteor cylinder so bad but don't think funds are going to be there. Looks like I'll have to go with Hyway. It's like half the price and haven't seen any bad reports on the Hyway.
 
Hey guys not knowing that much about cylinders can y'all tell me if I ordered the meteor kit am I going to get x amount of power more or am I just getting quality or if I happen to get a good Farmertec or Highway am I getting something just as good
 
Ridge1 said:
Hey guys not knowing that much about cylinders can y'all tell me if I ordered the meteor kit am I going to get x amount of power more or am I just getting quality or if I happen to get a good Farmertec or Highway am I getting something just as good
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Stick with your OEM and get it ported if you want power.
 
Ridge1 said:
Hey guys not knowing that much about cylinders can y'all tell me if I ordered the meteor kit am I going to get x amount of power more or am I just getting quality or if I happen to get a good Farmertec or Highway am I getting something just as good[/
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Is your saw Stihl or a Chinese copy?
 
A meteor piston is a large step above the Farmertech cylinders in quality. I have no clue if out of the box they will produce more power, but taking either the Meteor, or the next step down, a Hyway, or even the Farmertech, and porting cylinder, piston and muffler can lead to pretty big power increase if done well. I would not replace any of your chinese piston/cylinders just cause you felt like it. Not enough gain in power to justify that. Run em like you stole em. Biggest problem I have had with Farmertech cylinder wear is the crappy farmertech air filter fit letting fines into the intake. Keep that clean and well fit and they should serve well. I replaced the MS361 FT filter with a Hyway one and it works LOTS better.
 
Ridge1 said:
Hey guys not knowing that much about cylinders can y'all tell me if I ordered the meteor kit am I going to get x amount of power more or am I just getting quality or if I happen to get a good Farmertec or Highway am I getting something just as good
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If you think having an OEM is worth having then a meteor is the only aftermarket that is as good. A hyway is a good cylinder, but not good as a oem.

The tolerances are excat and will produce all the power it is designed to give. For instance a meteor would be the wrong cylinder to delete the gasket.

I have used all three and more and I am very happy with the power and the reliability I know I can count on . If you got it 40$ is not much to get there. And the kits need to be upgraded to be all that.



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Thanks for the info
I cut some firewood yesterday with the ms380 I put together a couple of weeks ago after modifying the filter with a gasket it ran really well but I noticed after it was sitting it started leaking fuel and then I noticed I evidently had a bad vent is there anything that I can do to repair the vent or do I need to get another one with the filter off I just watched as the carburetor filled up with fuel
 
Ridge1 said:
Thanks for the info
I cut some firewood yesterday with the ms380 I put together a couple of weeks ago after modifying the filter with a gasket it ran really well but I noticed after it was sitting it started leaking fuel and then I noticed I evidently had a bad vent is there anything that I can do to repair the vent or do I need to get another one with the filter off I just watched as the carburetor filled up with fuel
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If the filter is not flush it will leak fuel. The filter is the Achilles heel of the saw.

Replace the vent.

You not posting in the 380 thread limits what others can learn.

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Bedford T said:
Heat is such a helpful thing working with the saws. A good heat gun makes it easy, well easier. I tried an oven and did not like it. No reason to heat the whole case. That's why I said I never used the tool except to bust them. The tool for the other side is different

I never had a seal pucker until the 200t. I unpuckered it quick, Lol. I hear it's almost guaranteed to roll. I will order me a sleeve.


Seals have their own tool
Actually called an installing sleeve 1118 893 4600 on clutch side and press sleeve on Mr. Stubby 1108 893 2405. Neither are expensive at the counter.

http://thechainsawkitguy.com
https://www.youtube.com/the1chainsawguy
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However ....if you don’t heat enough of the bearing area the hole can get smaller.......just saying.
 
Bedford T said:
Well bless your heart. I am not sure what you mean. Of course it has to be heated thoroughly, just saying.

Did I neglect to say use a temp gun to check area temp? Thank you

The hole will now not get smaller lol

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If you take a disc with a hole in it and just heat the center......the metal expands. If it can’t go out and the outside metal is strong enough the metal expands inward.

I was just trying to help to let folks know......heat the thing.

We do bearings it takes 2 people to pick up.

We heat the part enough to expand the center
 
Stihl 041S said:
If you take a disc with a hole in it and just heat the center......the metal expands. If it can’t go out and the outside metal is strong enough the metal expands inward.

I was just trying to help to let folks know......heat the thing.

We do bearings it takes 2 people to pick up.

We heat the part enough to expand the center
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Ok, we heat the magnesium case then drop the bearing in, does that help

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Bedford T said:
Ok, we heat the magnesium case then drop the bearing in, does that help

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Yeah. W used to use the Heat crayons. Folks would put it where the bearing was going to go and heat it with a torch.
CRAYON TURNED COLOR!!!!
Well that surface was hot but the mass around it held it in.
They thought it just needed a little help with a press.
Things broke.
Heated enough and they drop right in. Absolutely.

The horror story is heating up the center of an impeller and trying to press the shaft out wit. A 100 ton press.
That’s when the whole thing has to be hot or it locks tighter.
Then you Gaul it. And it gets ugly.
 

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