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Guide bar rail closing tool ?

Discussion in 'Chainsaw' started by Den, Feb 9, 2019.

  1. Den

    Den ArboristSite Operative

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    There is a video of a guy using an Oregon bar rail closing tool on youtube. After going to the Oregon website, I can't seem to locate it on their site.

    Is Oregon still making the bar rail closer? It looks like a "T" shaped tool that you strike the top of the handle and the bevel grooved pocket pinches the rail inwards. Seems really effective.

    Anybody have a similar type of tool they prefer that is made by other manufacturers?

    Den.
     
  2. Ax-man

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    Oregon doesn't make that anymore . I have some thing similar but never used it . It came with a bunch of other stuff I bought when one of the local Stihl dealers closed up shop. I think you can still get a regular rail closer from Bailey's that closes the rails with rollers by sliding the tool back and forth over the bar till you get the rails closed up to the right width . I haven't used that tool in many years . It works but the rails spread back out due to the memory in the metal.
     
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    I have the bar rail closer from Baileys and use it whenever I encounter a bar with worn or spread rails. I have not noticed that they spread again due to memory, but I don't really keep track of all the saws I work on and haven't paid close attention to how long the repairs last. In general, if the rails are worn, closing them up will improve performance for a while but it will never be like new. That said, for a few minutes spent, the change in performance is clearly better.

    The Baileys tool is not a "fire and forget", you have to adjust the setting, pull it over the bar a few times, close it a bit, run it over the bar again, keep checking as you go and note that some spots will need more work that others.

    I have also found a screw driver makes a good "bar rail opener" if you go a bit too far...

    Looking at the unit below, the lower bearing is fixed and the upper one can adjust with the screw/lever on the end of the tool.

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    Mark
     
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  4. Den

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    If anyone has one of those Oregon guide bar rail closers, go ahead and private message me... might be interested in buying it.
     
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    I dug out that tool that looks similar to that closer you saw on You Tube . Mine isn't a closer but a bar rail dresser made by Oregon. Never used it but it slides down over the bar , move it back and forth to remove burrs on the side of the bar (I guess) because there is a small grinding stone inside the tool . Probably the same vintage as that closer because it doesn't even resemble a more modern type rail dresser. Back in the day you probably bought both tools as a set to do maintenance on your chainsaw bar.
     
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    Del_ Life is but a song we sing.

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    I've got the same one.
     
  7. Philbert

    Philbert Chainsaw Enthusiast

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    Can you post a photo?

    I really like the current guide bar dressing tools, with the files.

    Curious to see what this one looks like.

    Philbert
     
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    Sure , I can that . It's too late to do tonight but tomorrow should work . More winter muck on the way so not going to be doing much tomorrow.
     
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    Here are the pics . I think I might be missing a piece that goes with this . There is a second cut out in the box for this tool. I have no idea what it could be or what it would look like. View attachment 714959 View attachment 714959 DSCN2005.JPG DSCN2006.JPG DSCN2009.JPG DSCN2008.JPG
     
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    The bar shop machine does it all.

     
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    Here's a story for you. A guy gave me an 32" 063 Stihl bar that he said was causing his cuts to angle right or left because the groove was too wide from use. He said, "It's all yours. I bought a new bar. The chain floats too much."

    I redressed the bar and cleaned it all up, making sure that the rails were the same height and all burrs removed. The groove depth was still good. Then I thought, "What the heck, let's check the groove width."

    I pulled out my feeler gauge and used 0.064". I ran it all the way around with no difficulty. Then I tried 0.065" and that jammed it up so that it refused to slide. I checked the same on a brand new bar with exactly the same results. So much for his theory that the groove was worn wide. I now have a very usable 32" bar. Case dismissed.
     
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    Did you tell him his case has been dismissed?
     
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    No, not yet. I've yet to see him since I worked on the bar. I do intend to tell him what I did. Regardless, I doubt he would want it back.
     
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