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In need of a bigger saw.

Discussion in 'Firewood, Heating and Wood Burning Equipment' started by Rightwinger82, May 6, 2019.

  1. svk

    svk A little bit of everything

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    You've had good luck but that is probably a testament to the user as much as the saw.

    I almost never have fuel delivery issues with equipment I have used long term (except for weed wackers). However most of the stuff that I work on for people is due to carb problems, bad gas etc.
     
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    SamT1, you have stated that you can see why Stihl cost $200 more for a comparable saw, but you have yet to give any reason for it.

    Just what Bells, Whistles and Leather Seats, does Stihl offer that Husqvarna Doesn't?

    The Pro level Huskies are every bit as reliable as the Stihls, my own 266XP is 28 years old, and Still a Ripping saw, allI have done is used Quality Fuel and Oil for the engine and bar, an occasional fresh plug and occasional look over to make sure everything is tight, NEVER had any major problems with Any of my saws.

    The 23 Compact was a bit Finicky about fuel with Ethanol, once I learned about Non Ethanol fuel and started using it, even the 23 Compact has been trouble free

    Please, Try to convince me that a Stihl is Justifiably worth $200 more than a Comparable Husqvarna. I will be open minded, but I Stihl haven't seen any reason to over pay for a Stihl, when Husqvarna builds a saw for any need I have, and they have been Absolutely Reliable for me.


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    They have Magnum stickers on them.

    Checkmate :laugh:
     
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    The funniest part is that the internet super-loggers who debate how there saw brand is best and Stihl is overrated crap have run the original poster off.
     
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    Dude I’ve said it several times.
    On the 2XX saws:
    Outboard clutch is cheap, pain in the butt with rim sprokets.
    AV is designed cheap, protrudes below the saw so the saw sits cockeyed and wants to dump the bar while you jack with putting the chain on the rim. Works good for AV but it’s a cheaper design.
    Chain brake in plastics clutch cover is cheap. More effort to line up over clutch drum while the bar tries to slide off the tapered studs.
    Chain adjuster style is cheap bolt and nut, not near as user friendly as side adjust.
    Small 13mm bar nuts , not easily fingered in dirty and oily field conditions.
    More effort than a stihl to service air filter.
    Choke control not positioned well.

    Like I said before they have fixed a lot of this in the 3XX saws. No complaints with power and reliability. I enjoy running my 288, but it’s not as user friendly to get ready to work as my stihl saws. You can get almost all your $200 back when your done with the stihl anyway. Be it like new, well used or blown up. Heck I may buy a 372, not sure yet, tempted to save the $200 like so many.
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    Even Funnier, is that you don't know the difference between their, and there, your lack of reading comprehension just adds to the Humor, I have Never Claimed that Stihl were the Schitt that Chevrolet produces, does Chevy even build trucks any more? There is Ford, the #1 builder of trucks :numberone: for over 40 years, and Dodge((Now Ram;)) and ????.......

    In this thread, and in the past, I have always acknowledged that Stihl builds a Quality tool.

    I have asked, and so far SamT1 has been unable to specifically show how Stihl justifies a Higher price, for what I have stated is a COMPARABLE PRODUCT, I haven't even claimed that Husqvarna was a BETTER Product, I have consistently referred to them as COMPARABLE PRODUCTS, has your reading comprehension improved any?, or are you going to further contribute to Humor component of this thread, seeing that you have no desire to add any productive comments to it.


    Doug :cheers:
     
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    I'm getting a kick out of this lol, as I've said before, I'm a Husqvarna man, but those sthil saws are no joke. I can't believe that adults get so tore up about chainsaw brands. Btw I'm a die hard Chevy man too

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    If I was rich or single I’d buy one of each 70cc saw available and run them in rotation and do a video review every month or so until I culled them down to the king. That would be a lot of fun. I’ve never even fondled a Dolmar saw and haven’t touched an echo made in the last 20 years. I used to be so used to a stihl that everything else felt funny in my hands. But now days I rotate the old poulans , 288 and different stihl saws that nothing feels too foreign
     
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    As I have said repeatedly, I admit that Stihl builds a quality tool, but in MY OPINION, SamT1 is off base, and talking Schitt, that he doesn't know anything about.

    Counting the Wife's saw, there are 7 Husqvarnas in my garage, ranging from 38cc to 119cc.

    Sam keeps on about topics that I have addressed Husqvarna has Both Inboard and Outboard clutches, inboard clutches are NOT exclusive to Stihl

    Difficult to service Air Filters? What is so difficult about a couple quick clips and a metal bail on the filter? The 3120XP uses a Single wing bolt, for lack of a better description, and the filter cover similar to the old muscle car air filters, does it really get ANY EASIER than that, and still do it yourself?

    Again several of my Huskies use Side mounted chain adjusters, the Wife's 445, IIRCmy 353, 550xp an 390Xp use side mounted adjusters, yep the 3120XP, 266XP and IIRC my 23 Compact use the bolt in the saw face adjuster, which really isn't that difficult ;):innocent: Side adjusters are not a Stihl Exclusive either ;)

    Larger bar nuts? I sure don't have any trouble finger spinning my bar nuts on and off, are Stihl Bar nuts so large that you don't need a scrench to finish tightening them, or break them loose?
    I'm seeing another nonexistent problem there.

    I have said many times in the past that IMO, Stihl and Husqvarna are EQUAL Quality Saws, and that because of the Dealer network, I would consider Stihl, if I ever had to replace all my saws due to something like Fire or Theft. I disagree with Husky selling through Lowe's because it HAS had a detrimental effect on the Dealer Network, but that is my only Serious Complaint with Husqvarna, they have been Damned Good saws for me for 28 years, and I still have and Use that original 266XP from 28 years ago, still a Reliable saw.

    Talk about True issues, and I will discuss those with anyone, but I have read mostly Whiny Baby issues that have been addressed years ago

    I still don't see justification for over paying for a Stihl, but anyone is Welcome to if they want too


    Doug :cheers:
     
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    Funny the guy who thinks I’m off base doesn’t own any of stihls models that compete with his husky models to compare them in the real world.
     
  11. Rightwinger82

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    I am still here, been reading old forum threads. I know some folks like to keep uniformity in their saw line, however i am open to all brands and as i said before WANT to try something new. I am also mildly interested in trying to get my 036 ported. I may not love the 036 but i appreciate clean old saws and am on the fence about molesting something not in current production. At the end of the day I just NEED be able to pull a minimum 28 inch bc. Thanks for all the input.
     
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    Not Really, I haven't said ANYTHING DEROGATORY about Stihl Saws, I have always said that Stihl builds a Quality Saw, that I feel is Comparable to Husqvarna, didn't claim that one was BETTER than the Other, just that I feel that I get more saw for my money with Husqvarna.

    I haven't OWNED any Stihl, but have run a few, NEVER said there was anything Bad about them Except the Price.

    As too the awkward AV system, your 288 is so inflicted as I recall, but that was the exception, not the rule, and again, that is a 2xx series saw that the design is probably over 20 years old

    The Majority of Huskies probably are outboard clutched, I don't know what models were/weren't, most of mine are Outboard, with shorter bars, inboard are a bit easier to do a chain swap, but I find that the outboard clutch is an advantage when mounting longer bars,
    With my 36", 44" and 60" bars, the clutch helps hold the tail of the bar, while putting the clutch cover back in place

    BTW, I'm Stihl Waiting for any Real Legitmate Bells, Whistles or Leather Seats that Stihl offers, that Husqvarna Doesn't, to Justify that Extra $200 per saw.

    By all means Feel Free to Over Pay for your saws though, it is your money after all;)


    Doug :cheers:
     
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    Rightwinger82, I admit that the uniformity is a bit of it;), but the interchangeability is a Bigger part, mainly being able to swap B&C's, but potentially other parts if needed in the woods.

    Husqvarna has a saw to cover any need that I have had, and they have proven to be Very Reliable for me, so it just made sense to me, to stick with one brand.

    Some of the info presented here has been simply Wrong, I wouldn't fault you for buying Either a Husqvarna, OR a Stihl, both build Quality tools, I would want you to base your decision on Accurate Information.

    I have heard good things about Echo and Dolmar/Dolkita Saws as well, I just don't know anything about those personally. Back in 91, when I bought my first saw, my "Old Reliable" 266XP, I did extensively research both Husqvarna and Stihl, I knew people with each, ran what I could of each, and decided that I simply got more saw for my money with Husqvarna, but that Either Brand were equally well built, and would have served me well.

    Either Brand and others, should give you many years of reliable service with just basic care and maintenance.

    Doug :cheers:
     
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    I will say it, Stihl is overpriced garbage and Husqvarna Rules! :clap::happybanana::happy:
     
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    Delete "Crap" and I wholeheartedly agree with you

    I have tongue in cheek kidded Stihl owners before, but have always acknowledged that Stihl builds a Great saw

    I just don't see the justification for the price difference


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    Fixed it! I honestly do not care which brand a person likes as long as it has a sharp chain. Stepbrother runs Stihl just to keep us going at each other (all in jest). Husqvarna dealer in my area is far ahead of Stihl dealers in this area.
     
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    The Stihl dealer in my area is a Bomgaars store like TSC, they started dealing Stihls about 5 years ago and the "support" guy is the dewalt/ Milwaukee tool guy with no gas engine knowledge. He sets the saws up and he does repair. Nice guy, but i wouldn't let him work on the wifes weed wacker, no way in hell he gets to touch my saws. Nearest echo or husky dealer is 90 miles. The trouble with living on the Plains.
     
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    Production falling we ran 36’s on the 372’s that we’re hopped, the 272’s we ran 32’s full house square tooth chains with 8 pin sprockets. One thing you will notice is at the end of the day your hands won’t be killing you as bad with the spring mount vs the rubber mounts a big bonus for someone that runs them everyday.


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