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The goal of Obama is to break capitalism so people will embrace socialism, (Bernie Sanders). You have got to be kidding me??? I like Carly, Marco & Ted. I hope one of them emerges at the top pick.

Booo! lol. Well I'm sticking with Bernie. He's had the same views for decades. He's not a freaking flip flopper like so many politicians. He wants campaign finance reform. Read a study about Congress. It showed the American public has absolutely no bearing on laws passed. It's just about who can finance their campaigns and keep them n office. Without campaign finance reform we'll always be a populace with very little voice.

He is in the reserves. I don't ask about what happened over there. If he wants to talk about it I will listen but never will I ask.

The latest stats I saw we have lost far more service members to suicide than to combat/training. I'm not going political but you are right we have been at war for too long. Especially when people hardly talk about it. Its just another day in the neighborhood. We definitely need someone different and someone independent of the two parties to maybe change anything. But free stuff Bernie isn't the answer. He surely isn't my answer.

Yep, isn't that crazy. Suicide is a major issue. Read another study lol. Less than 1% of the American public served/is serving or has direct family that served. Less and less people are doing the fighting. Vets are feeling disconnected from the civilian populace. Many of them don't like to be thanked for their service because they feel like those words are hollow.

It's funny, many countries have programs/initiatives that really work. Free health care for everyone, higher/better educational systems, etc. Why the hell doesn't America study these countries and borrow ideas!? Crap, this country is a melting pot of people from other countries. Why the hell are we so high strung we have to recreate the freaking wheel?
 
It is Socialism at it's finest, and dividing the Nation again, part of his goal. Now the poor have health insurance, and the Middle class has sky high premiums and deductibles they can't meet. If the goal were to provide medical services, why in the world would you put the cost of an insurance company in the middle? Why not just create clinics??? I believe he is a very smart, EVIL person who is ruining this Country very fast. I also believe most of his supporters don't really understand what is happening, and are not nearly as smart as they think they are. The massive debt, the massive costs of health care, welfare and other gov entitlements, the virtual extermination of Christians & Jews in the Mid East, along with massive transfers of Muslims to Europe & the US, the targeting of conservatives by the IRS and other agencies, paid protesters being bused in being reported as legitimate protests, etc, etc. And he gets away with it because the news media is generally in his corner.

After a while, if you keep believing it is all just by accident, you are the fool.
Hit the nail on the head there.
 
So i picked up about a cord and a quarter of Norway pine that I had split this spring and piled in full sun. Some of the pieces are bone dry and others don't feel like they have lost an ounce of water from when I split them. No relation between dryness and where they were in the stack though so it isn't like the top pieces dried out and the rest didn't. What gives?
 
unions are almost non existent here most if not all jobs are 7.25 per hr regular positions in a factory is only 13.50 per hr.

Also part of what Obama is creating. Over regulations have led to lower Middle Class income and a lack of job opportunity. They say unemployment is low, but it is a phony #, the labor participation rate is the lowest in 38 years! The economy sucks!

It is also ironic that regulations designed to prevent "too big to fail" are so complex that any company not too big too fail is driven out of business because they can not comply!

Sorry for venting, I'll move on.
 
my dad also served in the us navy retired in 2005 he joined in early 1980. all my uncles and cousin served in all branches.
i didn't pass the exams and found out i had a heart condition so there isn't a way i could have gotten in anyway.
my uncle suffered from the time he was discharged in 1946 till his death in 2011 he was in the big red one during ww2 he told his dealings in the battle of the bulge and the normandy
landing. he went though hell i can't even imagine.
 
It is Socialism at it's finest, and dividing the Nation again, part of his goal. Now the poor have health insurance, and the Middle class has sky high premiums and deductibles they can't meet. If the goal were to provide medical services, why in the world would you put the cost of an insurance company in the middle? Why not just create clinics??? I believe he is a very smart, EVIL person who is ruining this Country very fast. I also believe most of his supporters don't really understand what is happening, and are not nearly as smart as they think they are. The massive debt, the massive costs of health care, welfare and other gov entitlements, the virtual extermination of Christians & Jews in the Mid East, along with massive transfers of Muslims to Europe & the US, the targeting of conservatives by the IRS and other agencies, paid protesters being bused in being reported as legitimate protests, etc, etc. And he gets away with it because the news media is generally in his corner.

After a while, if you keep believing it is all just by accident, you are the fool.

Also part of what Obama is creating. Over regulations have led to lower Middle Class income and a lack of job opportunity. They say unemployment is low, but it is a phony #, the labor participation rate is the lowest in 38 years! The economy sucks!

It is also ironic that regulations designed to prevent "too big to fail" are so complex that any company not too big too fail is driven out of business because they can not comply!

Sorry for venting, I'll move on.

The middle class has been eroding for a long time! I agree about the unemployment rate, it is a bogus number. Many people have given up seeking employment. Someone could also have lost their full-time job and be forced to work multiple part-time jobs.

The regulations set in place to prevent too big to fail are already starting to erode. Those regulations were already in place before the housing bubble crisis but it was eroded due to crony capitalism.

Democratic socialism doesn't sound too bad to me: http://www.dsausa.org/what_is_democratic_socialism

No matter who is elected, they will favor the voice of the people/organizations with the biggest pockets. Bernie has no Super PACs donating to his campaign. I'm not saying he is the answer but he's the best option so far.

The defense rests.
 
you mean they give you hat with the job dang! you are lucky most of time you only get a swift kick in the sack.
LOL. Well at least at this point I have been at it long enough that the perennial troublemakers on the site have given up attacking me and the other "noob" mods when we show up to break up a fight.
 
The middle class has been eroding for a long time! I agree about the unemployment rate, it is a bogus number. Many people have given up seeking employment. Someone could also have lost their full-time job and be forced to work multiple part-time jobs.

The regulations set in place to prevent too big to fail are already starting to erode. Those regulations were already in place before the housing bubble crisis but it was eroded due to crony capitalism.

Democratic socialism doesn't sound too bad to me: http://www.dsausa.org/what_is_democratic_socialism

No matter who is elected, they will favor the voice of the people/organizations with the biggest pockets. Bernie has no Super PACs donating to his campaign. I'm not saying he is the answer but he's the best option so far.

The defense rests.
Enough with it!
 
LOL. Well at least at this point I have been at it long enough that the perennial troublemakers on the site have given up attacking me and the other "noob" mods when we show up to break up a fight.

I think you were in training to be a mod for a while. I remember you running off steved I think from PA. He used to have his Silverado truck for his avatar.
 
I think you were in training to be a mod for a while. I remember you running off steved I think from PA. He used to have his Silverado truck for his avatar.
LOL not really. I didn't even remember who steved was until I looked him up.

After a bunch of mods "retired" I was nominated to be a mod. I won't say names but the guy who nominated me is supposedly really old and may have had long hair. ;)
 
Enough with it!

Man, you're no fun. We were just having a friendly firewood scrounger debate. I know how to follow orders though so I'm done.

Just did a rough measurement of my seasoned firewood stack. Very disappointing. I'm only around 3 1/2 cords. Damn it I suck! Need to stop reading so often and instead C/S/S more.
 
LOL not really. I didn't even remember who steved was until I looked him up.

After a bunch of mods "retired" I was nominated to be a mod. I won't say names but the guy who nominated me is supposedly really old and may have had long hair. ;)

I think it was when you became a little testy about firewood trailers lol. Or perhaps something else. Didn't think that would run someone off.

Well we haven't seen any full van pics in a week or two so get back to work!

I know! It rained all day yesterday so I worked on my chimney. Ground is really soggy today so it would be too much for my handicapped wheel barrow. Tomorrow it's on like Donkey Kong though.
 
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