Crane removals....

[Moestavrn]

Yeah I used to like the shackle option on the slings as well..

 

[Moestavrn]

I would think being that close to the crotch saver you wouldn't have much room for your hands between the rope if for some reason you would have to grab your line...Wouldn't you get rope burn or not be able to get your fingers between the two ends of the line? Maybe I am wrong, just an assumption...Don't know why you would have to go up or grab ur running end of the line, but just a thought....Okay everyone crap on me now...

 

[oldirty]

Dirty dude, I almost got smoked by my 372 today flushing a poplar stump from a tree I one cut today....Idk how or why but it was cuttin sick since you touched it up and I was standing behind the trigger, luckily, cuz it snapped back then cut fine, i think its because it was rotted in the middle, and one half broke free and caused it to land on the chain or something, idk, made me "barack" in my pants a little...

careful bud. i told you she was sharp now. lol. thats why good grip and posture is key.

i take it you were letting the saw pull through the wood? grip that handle bar like it owes you money. that'll ensure a good working grip. be glad you were not torquing on it because it was dull. that mightve kicked it harder.

believe me man. ive "barack"ed myself on the job a few times......you've been there. (i'm thinking too much coffee....) be careful moe!


lol

 

[marquis#1]

I would think being that close to the crotch saver you wouldn't have much room for your hands between the rope if for some reason you would have to grab your line...Wouldn't you get rope burn or not be able to get your fingers between the two ends of the line? Maybe I am wrong, just an assumption...Don't know why you would have to go up or grab ur running end of the line, but just a thought....Okay everyone crap on me now...

i like to be just under the ball.depending on what im doin

 

[Blakesmaster]

If the crane doesn't have or a shackle is not a available do you guys see any issue wrapping the false crotch right around the cable the same as you would on a spar? As long as it's short enough not to slip over the pill when wrapped, obviously. Or what about tossing a locking biner on the cable and running either the false crotch/friction saver through that? Or even just running your line through the biner, wouldn't that work? Sorry guys, thinking while I type.

 

[oldirty]

i think you are onto something about the friction saver putting the lines close together moe.

hmmmm.



you are under the ball regardles of what you are doing on the crane, no? i mean when not limb walking to the cut mind you.

anyway, seeing how i got the stuff i am going to set it up tomw. maybe put some wire through the shackle bolt to hold her in place too. extra safe then!

 

[marquis#1]

a biner is fine as long as it a riggin one that locks.but i like shackels better

 

[oldirty]

hey moe. nice sig line. lol

i see you've added to it.......lets be honest with the others now. you were in the tree.

lol

 

[Ghillie]

If the crane doesn't have or a shackle is not a available do you guys see any issue wrapping the false crotch right around the cable the same as you would on a spar? As long as it's short enough not to slip over the pill when wrapped, obviously. Or what about tossing a locking biner on the cable and running either the false crotch/friction saver through that? Or even just running your line through the biner, wouldn't that work? Sorry guys, thinking while I type.

You have to be carefull how you load a biner, they lose a lot of strength when they are side loaded and not inline with their spine.

I wouldn't use a biner IMHO.

 

[Ghillie]

I would think being that close to the crotch saver you wouldn't have much room for your hands between the rope if for some reason you would have to grab your line...Wouldn't you get rope burn or not be able to get your fingers between the two ends of the line? Maybe I am wrong, just an assumption...Don't know why you would have to go up or grab ur running end of the line, but just a thought....Okay everyone crap on me now...

It works just the same as using a "crotch saver" in a tree. It has never been an issue for me as of yet.

(are you talking about athletic cups or tree gear?)

 

[oldirty]

You have to be carefull how you load a biner, they lose a lot of strength when they are side loaded and not inline with their spine.

I wouldn't use a biner IMHO.

gonna be devil's advocate here on this ghillie... even if its a steel twist locking biner rated at 72kn's?

 

[Ghillie]

i think you are onto something about the friction saver putting the lines close together moe.

hmmmm.



you are under the ball regardles of what you are doing on the crane, no? i mean when not limb walking to the cut mind you.

anyway, seeing how i got the stuff i am going to set it up tomw. maybe put some wire through the shackle bolt to hold her in place too. extra safe then!

I am interested in hearing what you come up with OD. Borrow a camera if you have to! :hmm3grin2orange:

 

[Moestavrn]

Yeah I was in the tree, polesawing, and it was windy ass hell...The tree was in HORRIBLE shape, and I just wanted to get the hell down...So I went totall HACK style and just cut and let fly....I was totally a hack on it, I just didn't wanna be up there anymore...My bad....

 

[Ghillie]

gonna be devil's advocate here on this ghillie... even if its a steel twist locking biner rated at 72kn's?

If you take into account how much strength you lose with the side loading...

Give me a few minutes and I'll see if I can come up with some hard data and drawings.

I was shocked myself when I first saw the numbers.

 

[Moestavrn]

I'll bring my camera in tomorrow, if I'm not with you OD, I'll just give it to you...I only mentioned the line thing, cuz I have had to move up a step or two because I tied in too low when he brought me up, and figured if ur that close to the Saver, u lose that option...

 

[oldirty]

If you take into account how much strength you lose with the side loading...

Give me a few minutes and I'll see if I can come up with some hard data and drawings.

I was shocked myself when I first saw the numbers.

"back to the lab!" yell's the mad scientist, dr strangeghillie.

 

[Blakesmaster]

gonna be devil's advocate here on this ghillie... even if its a steel twist locking biner rated at 72kn's?

That's all I use. Something I either heard or read about aluminum biners on steel D rings being bad. I could be off on this though. Anyway, the Linemen's supply around the corner only carries one steel biner. My wallet hurts.

 

[Ghillie]

gonna be devil's advocate here on this ghillie... even if its a steel twist locking biner rated at 72kn's?

Here is a link to some spec's for a 40 kn biner. It's an auto locker but take a look at the ratings and especially in the WARNING box.

It loses 30 kn when side loaded and 28kn if the gate is open.

And they show in the warning box it being loaded with side pressure from a rock. That is pretty close to how I imagine it on the load line of a crane ball.

'Biners are really pretty fragile if not taken care of and loaded correctly.

 

[Moestavrn]

I am more nervous than most up in trees, but 72 KNs, even if it brings it down to 20KN's, its gonna hold my 130lbs....I mean hell those little beaners you buy to hold keys say "not for climbing" on the other side they say they hold 150lbs....TECHNICALLY, at 130, they would hold me, I would never trust or use one of those for anything other than stupid things, but seriously, safety is first, even with the rating drop, I'm sure it would be fine...But maybe I am wrong...

 

[oldirty]

i hope you are not wrong.....you are the guinea pig for the new crane tie in system!