Difference between Stihl .050 Gauge and .063 Gauge Chains

[ropensaddle]

http://www.danzcoinc.com/html/pin_drive_sprockets.html

Thanks do they make a huge differance?

 

[2000ssm6]

Show me a replaceable Oregon powermatch tip that is .050

I don't know the oregons. I only get Stihl and got a few GBs. The last tip I got for one of my ESs, he had to know the pitch and gauge. Maybe he didn't know what he was talking about. I see the pitch labeled but no gauge, I just figured they work as a pair like the bar rails.....guess I was wrong.

 

[ropensaddle]

Drive sprockets for the clutch or bar tips/noses?

Here are the rims:http://www.danzcoinc.com/html/tooth_count_375.htm

You better have a stout saw to pull a 9 or 10.....

My modded 372 should do it it goes too fast now
Does it make much differance?

 

[2000ssm6]

Now explain about your 050 063 tip theory on a replacable tip[oregon windsor]. 20yrs plus ago Oregon last sold a slimline contour 050 tipfor their 050 pro bars but haven't been available since.

See above post.....

 

[Tzed250]

Thanks do they make a huge differance?

No free lunch...with an 8 vs. 7 you get faster chain speed but a loss of torque.

 

[ropensaddle]

I don't know the oregons. I only get Stihl and got a few GBs. The last tip I got for one of my ESs, he had to know the pitch and gauge. Maybe he didn't know what he was talking about. I see the pitch labeled but no gauge, I just figured they work as a pair like the bar rails.....guess I was wrong husky is number one.

2000 you've converted to correct thinking must have bought that 372 ehhhhh?

 

[2000ssm6]

My modded 372 should do it it goes too fast now
Does it make much differance?

It might pull a 9 with a tiny bar, like a 16". You need to step up to a race saw/race port and race chain to take full advantage. 9s and 10s make crazy chain speed, they need lotsa of power to keep pulling.

 

[2000ssm6]

2000 you've converted to correct thinking must have bought that 372 ehhhhh?

Heck no, I have not lost my mind yet.:greenchainsaw:

 

[ropensaddle]

No free lunch...with an 8 vs. 7 you get faster chain speed but a loss of torque.

Yeah that is understandable I have more torque than I need
already so may buy a ten or a nine to play with!

 

[HolmenTree]

I don't know the oregons. I only get Stihl and got a few GBs. The last tip I got for one of my ESs, he had to know the pitch and gauge. Maybe he didn't know what he was talking about. I see the pitch labeled but no gauge, I just figured they work as a pair like the bar rails.....guess I was wrong.

2000 I'm trying to work with you here maybe you were replacing a burned out one piece laminated bar tip sprocket and bearing ,yes they come in 050 058 063.but not rivet joined to the bar body tips.

 

[Tzed250]

Yeah that is understandable I have more torque than I need
already so may buy a ten or a nine to play with!

Be advised...The nine or ten will probably require that the tail of the bar be modified to match the radius of the sprocket.

The 8T is available from your Husky dealer... Part # 505 30 36-61

 

[HolmenTree]

Tips come in pitch only, not by gauge. Your options are .325, .375 and .404.
Bars, obviously are gauge. Chain is pitch and gauge.
BTW, I run 3/8 .063 semi skip chisel (Stihl)

The sprocket and bearings in a tip have gauge too, laminated one piece bars have a sprocket nose gauge matching the gauge of the bar rails. A detachable sprocket nose tip is .063 no matter if the bar rail gauge is 050 058 or 063. As I said earlier Oregon made a 050 tip for their slimline pro bars up to about 25 yrs ago, now all 063.

 

[ropensaddle]

Be advised...The nine or ten will probably require that the tail of the bar be modified to match the radius of the sprocket.

Yeah I know I may stick with an 8 first but eventually want a ten
I am not sure if I want it for the 2101 395 or the modded 372?
I could probably do the 2101 the less painfull as my other saws
all work for their living well the 2101 does too but it is the oldest.
I would hate to think of using it for a race saw with no brake never had one.

 

[2000ssm6]

2000 I'm trying to work with you here maybe you were replacing a burned out one piece laminated bar tip sprocket and bearing ,yes they come in 050 058 063.but not rivet joined to the bar body tips.

No, it was the ES and had to leave it with him because I didn't have the rivets or the nose. That bar was pretty worn and next time I will just buy another bar. I understand what you saying about the 1 pc bar though, I get rid of 'em and buy ESs.

 

[HolmenTree]

It might pull a 9 with a tiny bar, like a 16". You need to step up to a race saw/race port and race chain to take full advantage. 9s and 10s make crazy chain speed, they need lotsa of power to keep pulling.

:agree2:

 

[Gologit]

Wrong 2000 as I was talking about 058 & 050 bars in Canada. All Stihl saws sold in Canada with bars under 28" are Oregon painted Stihl grey with Stihl printed on it.

Really? Wow. :monkey:

 

[Tree Sling'r]

The sprocket and bearings in a tip have gauge too, laminated one piece bars have a sprocket nose gauge matching the gauge of the bar rails. A detachable sprocket nose tip is .063 no matter if the bar rail gauge is 050 058 or 063. As I said earlier Oregon made a 050 tip for their slimline pro bars up to about 25 yrs ago, now all 063.

Yeah, I was refering to replacable tips. The other contraptions, I have no clue.

 

[HolmenTree]

Really? Wow. :monkey:

Just to give you a little history lesson. For Stihl to sell their saws in Canada the Canadian importing laws states that Stihl saws have to have a Canadian made product on it,so Oregon bars from Oregon's Canadian plant in Guelph,Ontario had to be used on the powerheads in the most common sizes under 28".Before Oregon it was Windsor on Stihl up until 1987, when at the time I raised hell through Chainsaw Age Magazine about the problems the oilholes on the Windsor bars not being blind drilled [one rail drilled through] and the plugged up oil holes were blowing the oil pump hoses off the 034s and the plugs out of the 038s pumps. The Oregon blind holes worked fine on the Stihls .After discussion with Stihls German factory engineer Yurgen Wolf the Windsors were eventually dropped and the Oregons bars have been on board ever since.

 

[Tree Sling'r]

Just to give you a little history lesson. For Stihl to sell their saws in Canada the Canadian importing laws states that Stihl saws have to have a Canadian made product on it,so Oregon bars from Oregon's Canadian plant in Guelph,Ontario had to be used on the powerheads in the most common sizes under 28".Before Oregon it was Windsor on Stihl up until 1987, when at the time I raised hell through Chainsaw Age Magazine about the problems the oilholes on the Windsor bars not being blind drilled [one rail drilled through] and the plugged up oil holes were blowing the oil pump hoses off the 034s and the plugs out of the 038s pumps. The Oregon blind holes worked fine on the Stihls .After discussion with Stihls German factory engineer Yurgen Wolf the Windsors were eventually dropped and the Oregons bars have been on board ever since.

Kind of a bar nut aren't you...LOL
Sometimes I crack myself up.

 

[HolmenTree]

Kind of a bar nut aren't you...LOL
Sometimes I crack myself up.

Yes I agree I am a little bit of a bar and saw nut. Ever since 8 yrs old when I cut my dads shelter belt of poplar trees down that he had for our cows with my oldest brothers Homelite 922XL.