Crappy Stihl Cylinder - Looks like ChiCom Garbage!!!

[gink595]

I've read here and there, but I was kinda surprised that the same cylinder in question that is a POS ended up selling for 85.00. I agree it looked crummy, about the same quality as a BB cylinder. But on the other hand as I've seen here and there that Stihls cylinder quality isn't what it used to be, and I think that is a real shame. It will catch up with them sooner or later. I hope the reputation they built doesn't collaspe because of greed. Those saws demand big money, the least they could do is supply a product that is of the highest standards in the industry and I don't think do. Tear a Dolmar cylinder down they look pretty good.

 

[edisto]

its a matter of ethics nearest I can gather, how dare Stihl sell such a cylinder and yet there's Brad, the man that says it is no good selling that cylinder

It's a matter of quality, not ethics.

Answer the question...it's a simple yes or no:

Do you find this cylinder to be acceptable quality for a Stihl product?

You don't seem to have an aversion to spewing out words; I'm just asking for one.

Yes or no THALL.

 

[PB]

Here is my take on this whole subject:

This thread needs to come to an end. What is going to be accomplished here? Is the cylinder going to magically become better quality? Is Stihl going to change things? NO!

This is starting to pass the friendly brand bashing that we all know and love, and turn a little personal. Posters on this thread are trying for satisfaction and keep picking at a scab that will never heal. Why complain about something that CANNOT be changed. It's okay to discuss, but when FRIENDS begin to take low shots we need to step back and look at what we are talking about. If someone admits Stihl made a crappy cylinder doesn't change a thing. If Tom Hall admits it's a bad cylinder, what does it prove? He didn't make the damn thing, neither did 2K or any other Stihlhead, so we are barking up the wrong tree.

There is no easy solution to this, there is no dealer to call and yell, box boy to ##### out for satisfaction, or person to rectify the "crappy" cylinder. This thread needs to die before friends are lost.

 

[2000ssm6]

Here is my take on this whole subject:

This thread needs to come to an end. What is going to be accomplished here? Is the cylinder going to magically become better quality? Is Stihl going to change things? NO!

This is starting to pass the friendly brand bashing that we all know and love, and turn a little personal. Posters on this thread are trying for satisfaction and keep picking at a scab that will never heal. Why complain about something that CANNOT be changed. It's okay to discuss, but when FRIENDS begin to take low shots we need to step back and look at what we are talking about. If someone admits Stihl made a crappy cylinder doesn't change a thing. If Tom Hall admits it's a bad cylinder, what does it prove? He didn't make the damn thing, neither did 2K or any other Stihlhead, so we are barking up the wrong tree.

There is no easy solution to this, there is no dealer to call and yell, box boy to ##### out for satisfaction, or person to rectify the "crappy" cylinder. This thread needs to die before friends are lost.

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LOL, my last post, in this thread.

 

[edisto]

If Tom Hall admits it's a bad cylinder, what does it prove?

I see your point. My concern is this...I prefer Huskies, but I hear great things about Stihl, and I love my new 076. I expect mistakes to pop up now and again, and I guess I didn't hear anything that would give me any confidence in buying a new Stihl.

What I wanted to hear was "whoa...that's a piece of crap. Take it to the nearest dealer and they'll give you a new cylinder, a free hat, and a thousand apologies!"

Instead I hear a lot of sideways talk and accusations.

My question might have seemed inflammatory, but I honestly want to know the answer. If that passes for OK for Stihl, then I'll save my money.

 

[PatrickIreland]

keep picking at a scab that will never heal.

Herpes?

 

[THALL10326]

So call it. Tell me straight up that the cylinder is an acceptable level of quality for a Stihl product, and that Brad has no right to complain about it.

No BS about Stihl not caring about the small proportion of their customers that actually look inside their saws, no bragging about how skilled you are at removing gumwrapper rods from saws, just answer the question:

Is this level of quality acceptable in your view?

OK that is easy to answer, it must have been acceptable if it was on the saw. Adding to that apparently the saw was running ok, I have yet to hear it wasn't. Brad has every right to complain, it does not meet HIS standards. Brad has a choice to make, he can complain all he wants. He said he just can't get over that cylinder, he can't beleive it. If I felt like that about something guess what I would do, I wouldn't buy anymore. He needs to sell all those Stihl's he has and then he'll feel much better. Will Stihl care, no, will Brad care, no, will I, no, will you, no, simple choice isn't it. People always make that big mistake of thinking the others they are complaining to really care. Samething at funerals, oh I'm so sorry. Then they go outside and tell thier buddy he was a mean SOB.

As for my level I don't tear saws apart for the hell of it or to port them or to inspect them. I will not go out in the shed and tear apart my 45 Stihls or 3 Husky's or two Dolmars looking for trouble or to see how well the cylinder looks, why, they run fine, good enuff for me.

If I got that cylinder out the box to repair a saw I would not use it, I would get another and repair the saw, job done. Nothing to write home to momma about huh, just a saw, just a cylinder, just another job. I would not go hop on a saw site or call the newspapers or radio stations and scream to the world the title of this thread.
Nope, I would have Rush Limbaugh do it for me,LOLOL

 

[PB]

What I wanted to hear was "whoa...that's a piece of crap. Take it to the nearest dealer and they'll give you a new cylinder, a free hat, and a thousand apologies!"

But if it was said, does that make it true? Tom Hall can't speak for Stihl or other dealers. I don't expect Tom to make a statement to that extent, he knows his Stihl saws and makes his living from them. I believe if Stihl had quality issues, not just one saw, but many issues Tom would say something.

It was a new cylinder from a RUNNING saw, and questions of reliability would only be conjecture. It might run for 20 years or 2, we will never know.

 

[PB]

Herpes?

Remind me not to kiss your wife.

 

[THALL10326]

Here is my take on this whole subject:

This thread needs to come to an end. What is going to be accomplished here? Is the cylinder going to magically become better quality? Is Stihl going to change things? NO!

This is starting to pass the friendly brand bashing that we all know and love, and turn a little personal. Posters on this thread are trying for satisfaction and keep picking at a scab that will never heal. Why complain about something that CANNOT be changed. It's okay to discuss, but when FRIENDS begin to take low shots we need to step back and look at what we are talking about. If someone admits Stihl made a crappy cylinder doesn't change a thing. If Tom Hall admits it's a bad cylinder, what does it prove? He didn't make the damn thing, neither did 2K or any other Stihlhead, so we are barking up the wrong tree.


There is no easy solution to this, there is no dealer to call and yell, box boy to ##### out for satisfaction, or person to rectify the "crappy" cylinder. This thread needs to die before friends are lost.

Hey you hush, I like this thread. This is one of the very best threads of the year. I'm gonna go look for Space now, I can't wait to see what he has to say,LOLOL

BTW, that was a crummy looking cylinder, bad, will know in about 10 years, saw was running, how it was running is the who crapped in the sink mystery, have yet to get a report on that,LOL

Friends, what friends, I don't know these people, hell I don't know you,:hmm3grin2orange::hmm3grin2orange::hmm3grin2orange::hmm3grin2orange:

 

[PB]

Friends, what friends, I don't know these people, hell I don't know you,:hmm3grin2orange::hmm3grin2orange::hmm3grin2orange::hmm3grin2orange:

That hurts Tom, it really hurts. I thought we shared something special that night down by the lake.

 

[THALL10326]

That hurts Tom, it really hurts. I thought we shared something special that night down by the lake.

Why you low life, freinds never tell, my line was to keep things secret, look what you have done, GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
:hmm3grin2orange::hmm3grin2orange::hmm3grin2orange:

 

[bookerdog]

Here is my take on this whole subject:

This thread needs to come to an end. What is going to be accomplished here? Is the cylinder going to magically become better quality? Is Stihl going to change things? NO!

This is starting to pass the friendly brand bashing that we all know and love, and turn a little personal. Posters on this thread are trying for satisfaction and keep picking at a scab that will never heal. Why complain about something that CANNOT be changed. It's okay to discuss, but when FRIENDS begin to take low shots we need to step back and look at what we are talking about. If someone admits Stihl made a crappy cylinder doesn't change a thing. If Tom Hall admits it's a bad cylinder, what does it prove? He didn't make the damn thing, neither did 2K or any other Stihlhead, so we are barking up the wrong tree.

There is no easy solution to this, there is no dealer to call and yell, box boy to ##### out for satisfaction, or person to rectify the "crappy" cylinder. This thread needs to die before friends are lost.

you can't really think we take this seriously do you plant. Skip a Skip b skip c..........

 

[PB]

Why you low life, freinds never tell, my line was to keep things secret, look what you have done, GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
:hmm3grin2orange::hmm3grin2orange::hmm3grin2orange:

Ohhhhhhhhh............ You mean nothing to me Tom Hall.

 

[PB]

you can't really think we take this seriously do you plant. Skip a Skip b skip c..........

You? NO. Others? Yes.

 

[AZLOGGER]

Space I would not sell something to someone I just told was no good, sorry but thats me. I've given away more saws than that cylinder would ever bring if it were made out of sterling sliver. You can defend that type of charactor all you want, I find it odd the man that is having such a tissy and proclaiming its no good turns right around and sells it, the exact samething he is downing the maker about. I don't see the maker downing him, do you??

Stihl has not laid off anyone Space, due to the high quality of their products they haven't had to. They do what they have to do to meet world demand. Others lay off because the demand for their product isn't there, put that in ya ole pipe and puff it.
Gotta go, leave me a reply, you know me, I likes you,:hmm3grin2orange::hmm3grin2orange:

That is total BS Thall, you just like to keep stirring the pot.

BTW Me thinks joatmon is working incognito for STIHL, (buy the inferior cylinder at whatever the cost, destroy it or whatever, then no evidence it ever existed). I would of liked to see Brad get a new P/C from STIHL, just to see if they stand behind their products, (but thats not my call).

Now I'll add some more fuel to the fire, MS180 (with possibly 2 or 3 tanks of fuel thru it) comes in this am with PTO side bearing trashed, P/C and everything else no problem, just like brand new. This saw was sold by the local ACE Hardware Store, & they tell him it is used commercially so warranty is out. The guy bought it in 01/09 and trims (everybody's favorite) mulberry trees. I gave him $45.00 trade in allowance towards a Husqvarna 435, hopefully another convert.

Next a FS85 Trimmer with non-adjustable carb comes in with moderate scoring on exaust side of piston, don't know where or when purchased, but fuel in tank looked OK. This one is questionable, don't know if it was ever straight gassed or not, but with non-adj carb I know it was not run lean on carb adj.
Now that all of you DIEHARD STIHL fans have drawn and quartered Brad, flame on I have very thick skin.

 

[THALL10326]

It's a matter of quality, not ethics.

Answer the question...it's a simple yes or no:

Do you find this cylinder to be acceptable quality for a Stihl product?

You don't seem to have an aversion to spewing out words; I'm just asking for one.

Yes or no THALL.

I wrote you a post answering that. While here I wanna ask you a question about acceptable things as well. I'm sure you saw the pics of my 372, I'm told that was a mistake, fair enuff. However that defect was seen by the person who made it, by the person who inspected it before assmebly, it was also seen by the person who put the oil hose in the hole during assembly, so we have three cover ups here, mistake, acceptable, quality control failure or they just didn't give a dayummm, which one is it??

 

[bookerdog]

I wrote you a post answering that. While here I wanna ask you a question about acceptable things as well. I'm sure you saw the pics of my 372, I'm told that was a mistake, fair enuff. However that defect was seen by the person who made it, by the person who inspected it before assmebly, it was also seen by the person who put the oil hose in the hole during assembly, so we have three cover ups here, mistake, acceptable, quality control failure or they just didn't give a dayummm, which one is it??

And around and around we go. skip to the lou my darling skip to the lou my darling.

 

[THALL10326]

That is total BS Thall, you just like to keep stirring the pot.

BTW Me thinks joatmon is working incognito for STIHL, (buy the inferior cylinder at whatever the cost, destroy it or whatever, then no evidence it ever existed). I would of liked to see Brad get a new P/C from STIHL, just to see if they stand behind their products, (but thats not my call).

Now I'll add some more fuel to the fire, MS180 (with possibly 2 or 3 tanks of fuel thru it) comes in this am with PTO side bearing trashed, P/C and everything else no problem, just like brand new. This saw was sold by the local ACE Hardware Store, & they tell him it is used commercially so warranty is out. The guy bought it in 01/09 and trims (everybody's favorite) mulberry trees. I gave him $45.00 trade in allowance towards a Husqvarna 435, hopefully another convert.

Next a FS85 Trimmer with non-adjustable carb comes in with moderate scoring on exaust side of piston, don't know where or when purchased, but fuel in tank looked OK. This one is questionable, don't know if it was ever straight gassed or not, but with non-adj carb I know it was not run lean on carb adj.
Now that all of you DIEHARD STIHL fans have drawn and quartered Brad, flame on I have very thick skin.

Can you add where Stihl has laid off a 1000 employees, show me. You bring up a FS85, do you have any idea how old that thing is, single screw carb, do you wanna know, try 2001, best get your thick skin off the top of your head.

No one has drawn and quartered Brad. I did ask Brad question that I haven't seen his answer to. I asked him if he had bought my 372 and found that screwed up case hidden just like that cylinder would he had started a thread call Crappy Husky Case-Looks Like ChiCom Garbage. Have you seen it, is so please point it out to me.

 

[bookerdog]

Can you add where Stihl has laid off a 1000 employees, show me. You bring up a FS85, do you have any idea how old that thing is, single screw carb, do you wanna know, try 2001, best get your thick skin off the top of your head.

No one has drawn and quartered Brad. I did ask Brad question that I haven't seen his answer to. I asked him if he had bought my 372 and found that screwed up case hidden just like that cylinder would he had started a thread call Crappy Husky Case-Looks Like ChiCom Garbage. Have you seen it, is so please point it out to me.

No but, you have used mr drippy several times and started threads up using mr drippy. Point being. Now skip a skip b skip c just like I taught you.