If you had to choose one, without money being an issue...
Which one, and why??
I know a good portion is going to suggest a 372. But try to be close minded please and keep your thoughts limited to the 441 and the 460.
Below is what I wrote in another similiar thread, and it just represents what I have found after running a modded 441 quite a bit. I say modded 441, because I don't have any experience with the 441 unmodded, as I refuse to log with unmodded saws, so they go from the dealers shelf to my buddy shop and then to me. So in stock form I have no idea what they do.
Below is another 441 owner's findings of the 441 as compared to the 460 and even the 660:
I've had my stock 441 at three GTG's so far, and there was no difference in cut times between the 441 and 460. In fact, in firewood sized rounds, there wasn't much difference between the 441 and 660. You had to throw on the 32" bar and cut a 31" log to begin seeing significant differences.
The biggest power gain with the strato motors comes from Stihl using 4 port transfers. The 460 and 660 only use 2 ports, which is why the 441 can keep up with them despite having a smaller motor.
I look forward to the 461. I hope they come out with the 261 and 661 first though...
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So for these people who haven't run a 441 to say the 460 is that much more powerful for the money ...... the proof just isn't there, and I don't mean that as a knock against the legendary 460, but the 441 is just a better saw.
For some, like myself, the 441 is a slightly different feeling saw, but this is true a many different models and sizes of saws. After a couple of days I got my lines right and now I feel cutting with the 441 is like running the Cadilac of Chainsaws it is just smooth and powerful for its size.
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Below is my other post:
The guy that ported my 441 has done about 20+ 460 and he had the modds down pat as to what worked. Most of these saws are for a tree company that he maintains, so he got to work with and improve his ideas, not just make one and then ship it away, never to be seen again.
He has only done one 441 (mine) and it took him a little while to figure out what Stihl had done there, he even whined a little bit at first, because it wasn't something he was use to seeing, but as he started to work on it, he began to really like the 441 and he really like the 361 and feels the 361's setup is one of the better designs.
Anyways, when he got the 441 done, he did many test cuts against the 460's and they all had advanced timing (the 441 didn't have advanced timing,yet) and with a 25" bar on all modded saws you couldn't get any difference in time, yet the 441 is much smoother, better fitration and much better gas mileage this equals a faster easier to work with saw day in and day out.
I have used this very 441 logging and it starts very easy and is completely trouble free.
I don't dislike the 460 ...... I just don't see the point in owning one for production purposes, it doesn't bring anything to the table that beats the 441 for the money, but that is my opinion.
Sam
