441 or 460.... ?

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460 the 441 just felt to bulky when comparing the 2 also why not have more power in the same weight i vote ms460
 
Did you have a chance to run my 372xpw?

Very little, but yes. It was really fast, sweet saw Jack. Just keep in mind though that (one day) I do intend on owning a 372xpw. My mind is already made up that I'll have one.

I'm just curious to hear what others have to say about the comparison between the 460 and the 441.
 
I bought a 460 new a few years ago. Sold after CAD got me 56's and a bunch of 66's. I wish I had it back and prolly buy a new one before they qiut making them. All around great saw
gregz
 
I've ran both, but I've ran a 460 more, I don't see what the hype is about the 460, didn't seem to be anything special...okay power, okay anti vibe, a little porky....Now the 441 I don't see why people hate the saw, it seemed to have good power and very nice anti-vibe. I guess I haven't ran either one enough to say which one of those I'd buy. I do like the way the 460 looks, very nice looking saw, the 441 is a bit funny looking to me. I think both a noce saws, but I'll stick to my Dolmars:greenchainsaw:
 
Both have pros and cons. Antivibe isn't much to me but the 441 is smoother. The 441 has a better air filter system but I don't mind cleaning the 460's filter. There are a butt load more modded 460s out there but 441s mod well also. My choice? Get both.:D
 
Yeah, they are both nice saws. i have owned both, and like both. But if I had to pick between the two, Im taking the 460.
 
If you had to choose one, without money being an issue...

Which one, and why??

I know a good portion is going to suggest a 372. But try to be close minded please and keep your thoughts limited to the 441 and the 460. :)

Below is what I wrote in another similiar thread, and it just represents what I have found after running a modded 441 quite a bit. I say modded 441, because I don't have any experience with the 441 unmodded, as I refuse to log with unmodded saws, so they go from the dealers shelf to my buddy shop and then to me. So in stock form I have no idea what they do.

Below is another 441 owner's findings of the 441 as compared to the 460 and even the 660:

I've had my stock 441 at three GTG's so far, and there was no difference in cut times between the 441 and 460. In fact, in firewood sized rounds, there wasn't much difference between the 441 and 660. You had to throw on the 32" bar and cut a 31" log to begin seeing significant differences.

The biggest power gain with the strato motors comes from Stihl using 4 port transfers. The 460 and 660 only use 2 ports, which is why the 441 can keep up with them despite having a smaller motor.

I look forward to the 461. I hope they come out with the 261 and 661 first though...

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So for these people who haven't run a 441 to say the 460 is that much more powerful for the money ...... the proof just isn't there, and I don't mean that as a knock against the legendary 460, but the 441 is just a better saw.

For some, like myself, the 441 is a slightly different feeling saw, but this is true a many different models and sizes of saws. After a couple of days I got my lines right and now I feel cutting with the 441 is like running the Cadilac of Chainsaws it is just smooth and powerful for its size.
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Below is my other post:

The guy that ported my 441 has done about 20+ 460 and he had the modds down pat as to what worked. Most of these saws are for a tree company that he maintains, so he got to work with and improve his ideas, not just make one and then ship it away, never to be seen again.

He has only done one 441 (mine) and it took him a little while to figure out what Stihl had done there, he even whined a little bit at first, because it wasn't something he was use to seeing, but as he started to work on it, he began to really like the 441 and he really like the 361 and feels the 361's setup is one of the better designs.

Anyways, when he got the 441 done, he did many test cuts against the 460's and they all had advanced timing (the 441 didn't have advanced timing,yet) and with a 25" bar on all modded saws you couldn't get any difference in time, yet the 441 is much smoother, better fitration and much better gas mileage this equals a faster easier to work with saw day in and day out.

I have used this very 441 logging and it starts very easy and is completely trouble free.

I don't dislike the 460 ...... I just don't see the point in owning one for production purposes, it doesn't bring anything to the table that beats the 441 for the money, but that is my opinion.

Sam
 
I believe what you have wrote. I was surrised by the power of the 441 I ran at a GTG, I was expecting some turd of a saw, to say the least it was NOT. Very nice saw I thought. I can't believe people bash that saw the way they do, I'm begining to wonder if they have really ran one or are just giving opinions that have no basis?:cheers:
 
i have 372 thats i ported i also have 440 and a 044. i feel all are great saws but i think the 044-460s are slightly better, heavier duty working saws

i would not even consider the 441 if i was to be in the market for a spanken new 70-75cc saw. my choice would be between the 460 and 372xpw and standerd 372
 
I believe what you have wrote. I was surrised by the power of the 441 I ran at a GTG, I was expecting some turd of a saw, to say the least it was NOT. Very nice saw I thought. I can't believe people bash that saw the way they do, I'm begining to wonder if they have really ran one or are just giving opinions that have no basis?:cheers:

I think you have hit it on the head with this statement:

"I'm begining to wonder if they have really ran one (441) or are just giving opinions that have no basis?"

There are two Stihl dealers that I frequent and both sell a lot 441 with 100% customer satisfaction in their choosen model. The owner of one store stated in his experience of selling saws, they had the highest customer satisfaction as per his sales.

The 460 just doesn't have anything on the 441, while the 441 has several advantages over the 460.

Sam
 
i have not found the vibes a problem with my 440 thats maken more power then a stock 460. maybe im just tough or something.
 
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