Sawyers Behaving Badly..........

[Rounder]

My regular crew isn't working this week, so I called around and found a week with my old fallback. Boss said they started a new job last Wednesday near a nice little town, some good watering holes and eateries, sounds good to me.

Then he says, "You'd be real proud of the boys", uh oh, not good.
First night in town, they were banned for life from town, arrested on sight if they ever return (I guess that means me too).

I don't know details, and they probably would not be fit for a public forum even if I did. So no night away from camp for me this week :censored:!

Another sufferfest in camp this week.

Let's hear some stories, I know you got 'em - Sam - Have a good week

 

[forestryworks]

That sounds like they're fallers from the days of lawless DEADWOOD

 

[joesawer]

Lol that reminds me of when 1200 tree cutters descended on the "Alpine Resorts" of Southern California to clean up the bark beetle epidemic.
There was a lot of friction and a few broken bones and smashed faces. I heard over and over again about how violent we where.

 

[LarryTheCableGuy]

Lol that reminds me of when 1200 tree cutters descended on the "Alpine Resorts" of Southern California to clean up the bark beetle epidemic.
There was a lot of friction and a few broken bones and smashed faces. I heard over and over again about how violent we where.

Dude, you forgot about all of the chimney fires from burning all of that pine!

Amazing that anyone survived!




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[joesawer]

Dude, you forgot about all of the chimney fires from burning all of that pine!

Amazing that anyone survived!




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Lol do you remember the cranes everywhere and log trucks and traffic jams?

There where several establishments where we where not welcome for quite a long while around '04.

 

[Rounder]

Dude, you forgot about all of the chimney fires from burning all of that pine!

Amazing that anyone survived!




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LOL same problem here with those darn beetles, everybody wants the firewood, culls!

 

[BuddhaKat]

Not to rain on your parade, but they can't ban you from coming into town anymore than they can run you out of one. Little thing called the Constitution standing in the way.

There are no laws preventing a law abiding person from coming into any city in the country, nor can the cops harass you for doing so. If it were possible to do that, where would all the pedophiles live after getting out of prison?

 

[joesawer]

Not to rain on your parade, but they can't ban you from coming into town anymore than they can run you out of one. Little thing called the Constitution standing in the way.

There are no laws preventing a law abiding person from coming into any city in the country, nor can the cops harass you for doing so. If it were possible to do that, where would all the pedophiles live after getting out of prison?

Welkome to Amerika, Komrad!

 

[Rounder]

Not to rain on your parade, but they can't ban you from coming into town anymore than they can run you out of one. Little thing called the Constitution standing in the way.

There are no laws preventing a law abiding person from coming into any city in the country, nor can the cops harass you for doing so. If it were possible to do that, where would all the pedophiles live after getting out of prison?

It ain't no parade when the ding dongs you work with (not exactly "law abiding" ding dongs) give you a bad name in a small town when you're stuck there cutting for a while on a contract. Might just be a Montana thing. I like to leave the locals with a good impression, but sometimes the coworkers good times get in the way of that- back to some stories, I need a laugh before I get up in the dark and head to wherever we're going.

 

[cassandrasdaddy]

not so

Not to rain on your parade, but they can't ban you from coming into town anymore than they can run you out of one. Little thing called the Constitution standing in the way.

There are no laws preventing a law abiding person from coming into any city in the country, nor can the cops harass you for doing so. If it were possible to do that, where would all the pedophiles live after getting out of prison?

i know of several folks barred by the courts in va from certain towns. and one who can only go see his parents if he calls the sheriff 24 hours ahead of time , is met at the county line escorted to their house where he must stay inside till he calls to be escorted back to the border. were his parents not filthy rich he likely would be denied even that privilege.


and no one that knows ricky complains we all know why

 

[slowp]

I"m sorry, the only story I have happened in camp, so it doesn't count.

 

[turnkey4099]

Not to rain on your parade, but they can't ban you from coming into town anymore than they can run you out of one. Little thing called the Constitution standing in the way.

There are no laws preventing a law abiding person from coming into any city in the country, nor can the cops harass you for doing so. If it were possible to do that, where would all the pedophiles live after getting out of prison?

i know of several folks barred by the courts in va from certain towns. and one who can only go see his parents if he calls the sheriff 24 hours ahead of time , is met at the county line escorted to their house where he must stay inside till he calls to be escorted back to the border. were his parents not filthy rich he likely would be denied even that privilege.


and no one that knows ricky complains we all know why

And, while I was working Correctiosn, we had one man released on Murder 1 who not only was banned from town, he was banned from the entire state of Washington.

Ooops, wrong. It wasn't Murder 1. He knifed a man to death over a dope deal. Plea bargained to less than murder but I don't recall the exact charge. I thought I would never forget his name but I can't bring it up now.

Harry K

 

[BuddhaKat]

Ok, so I went back and read the Constitution and it doesn't say anything about the right to travel freely, but I know it's a federal law somewhere.

I know of lots of judges that make agreements with defendants that aren't prescribed by law, i.e: Chemical castration, or wearing a sign in public saying you committed a crime, etc. But these are rulings based on agreements between the defendant and the prosecutor. Sometimes the judge comes up with an unconventional idea, but they rarely issue one of these types of rulings on their own. Any lawyer would have them swept aside without breaking a sweat.

Freedom to travel has been upheld by the Supreme Court on several occasions. No judge is capable of ordering someone out of town without that person agreeing to it. However, I doubt that the agreement would even be considered valid and enforceable.

 

[Gologit]

I think you guys are missing the point...Mtsamloggit wants to hear a few rowdy logger stories and he gets a lecture on constitutional rights instead. Check your sense of humor for full operational status, okay?

And, for what it's worth, you can get banned. Not legally of course but in some of the smaller communities where everybody knows everybody you can be made to feel unwelcome. Very, very unwelcome. Is it legal? No. Is it done? Yup.

So...where are the stories?

Sam...when I get a break I'll PM you about the time the woods crew, some drivers, and some fallers danced on the counter tops with the waitresses at Denny's, locked the cook in the store room 'cause they didn't like his attitude...and got banned. I'd post it here but I'd probably get a lecture on anti-social and irresponsible behavior.

 

[ross_scott]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zey8567bcg

 

[BuddhaKat]

I think you guys are missing the point...Mtsamloggit wants to hear a few rowdy logger stories and he gets a lecture on constitutional rights instead. Check your sense of humor for full operational status, okay?

And, for what it's worth, you can get banned. Not legally of course but in some of the smaller communities where everybody knows everybody you can be made to feel unwelcome. Very, very unwelcome. Is it legal? No. Is it done? Yup.

So...where are the stories?

Sam...when I get a break I'll PM you about the time the woods crew, some drivers, and some fallers danced on the counter tops with the waitresses at Denny's, locked the cook in the store room 'cause they didn't like his attitude...and got banned. I'd post it here but I'd probably get a lecture on anti-social and irresponsible behavior.

Oh..wait a sec. I had the polarity reversed the wrong way on my laugh-o-scope. Sense of humor fully powered up now so let the logger stories fly, (unabated). I promise I won't do anything but laugh my ass off.

 

[Greystoke]

Some Fallers that I spent some time with on a float camp on Long Island, Southeast Alaska, decided to hit the town on the way back south after leaving camp for the season...bad Idea! One of the guys got so drunk that he mistakenly entered the wrong building thinkin it was the hotel he was staying, when actually it was a alcohol and drug rehab facility, so he get busted because he got in and the doors locked behind him and would not let him back out, so he freaks out and breaks the window! LOL! Glad I was not in on that one. That camp was wild. The day I showed up one of the riggin rats had a black and blue face and the one that gave it to him got tramped...also a couple of bullet holes in the floor and walls from idiots playin with their guns...livin with numbskulls...that is one of the many things i did not like about camp!

 

[Ontario_Logger]

One time at band camp.......wait nevermind

 

[hammerlogging]

my boss picked up an out of town crew to staff our yarder, as a welcome to town gesture took them to a minor league game. One of em jumped out of the stands, tagged third and slid into home. Arrested.

 

[slowp]

It is a dark and stormy evening. Time for a tale of a fire crew that became a legend.

We were sent against our will to an Eastern Oregon conflagration. Valuable dead lodgepole was on fire. (sarcasm). This was back in the days when our fire guy would not send crews away to such places because, "If something starts up here, I need my people because we have real timber here, not that lodgepole." He would wait till the big bosses made him do so. Plus, we did not need the overtime because we made just as much by staying home. We got to do broadcast burns on weekends and evenings and after that was over, patrol the district on the weekends.

Anyhoo, we had been put on nightshift during week two of our tour de Oregon de east. Nightshift means you have to try to sleep during the hot day in a noisy firecamp. Nightshift is an exercise in sleep deprivation and makes for some cranky people. The fire grew and soon became too big for the type 2 overhead team so a type 1 team moved in. They looked around camp, which was located in a meadowy spot with scattered dead lodgepole around, and decided all the snags needed to be cut down. So, fallers went to work. One tent was hit, but that crew was out. We could not sleep with saws going and trees falling around us.

We were cranky, did I mention that? We were not young enough to be easily intimidated, and half of us were permanent employees. We first tried to work through channels to get the falling stopped. We suggested they fall during shift change. Nope. We got called whiners. The falling went on.

Our sawyer, who was a heck of a worker, and hot tempered at times had had enough. He disappeared. Soon he reappeared with a uniformed Security guy in front and in back. They announced they were sending him home. He had been in the Plans tent (where the big shots are) and fired up his saw and was revving it up yelling "COULD YOU :censored:ING SLEEP WITH THIS GOING ON? COULD YOU? :censored::censored:

They said they were sending him home. We stood up and said then we're all going home, and our people will back up our decision. We told them we could make just as much money at home, and get sleep too.

The security guys' mouths gaped open. They were speechless. The camp boss arrived. They started stuttering--we had ruined their moment. We began moving to pack our gear.

The camp guy then said, "Well, we'll keep you on, but don't do it again." (what a wimp). The falling quit. We went back to try to sleep, and they began falling during shift change. We were branded as "trouble makers", which we did out best to live up to, because when we got sent to Pendleton for a day off, and they told us we could not leave the fenced in rodeo grounds, we climbed over the fence and went on into town. Nobody got into fights, the guys bought nice colorful neckties at the Goodwill Store to wear back in firecamp for supper....But we were called, "That Crew" and we got put in the short bus to ride home when it was time, instead of the comfy tour bus.

That's my story of getting into trouble IN camp.