Sure, but there aint too many Joe Blows around herr that aint got 660s and 880s and myriads of other big saws lol.
Husqvarna 555 vs. 562xp -- which is actually 11.8 lbs?
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Sure, but there aint too many Joe Blows around herr that aint got 660s and 880s and myriads of other big saws lol.
spike60
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Spike ya gotta get them Swedes on the horn and give 'em hell.
The dorks don't seem to understand how to do bidness properly.
Folks are frothed up, foaming at the mouth and showing signs of mange for waiting, end of the fiscal year for Tree docs,Orchards, and timber guys is looming, taxes(Last write off ever possibly) are in everyones mind, and Christmas is around the corner.
The Sun is shining on the Hayfield dangit!
Been meaning to call ya. I've looped through the sponsors and it's your turn again.:hmm3grin2orange:
Needing a 24" lg mount Husky bar.
I'll wait till after ya get past the Monday morning haze before I pester ya though. LOL!!
December would be nice...real nice.
Could still put it on the Farm for the year.
Stay safe!
Dingeryote
Well, we can write whatever date you want on the invoice.
I could call Sweden, but my only motivation would be to talk to some babe with a Swedish accent. A good accent enhances a womens attractiveness. It's worth an extra cup size in most cases. An exception would be women from NY City, or worse yet from Long Island who have an exceedingly annoying accent. A chick with a Swedish or French accent is incapable of "talking too much"; the more the better in fact. But somebody from "The Island" only has to start the day with "ga mawnin" and you want to tell her to shut up for the rest of the day no matter how she looks.
I seemed to have slipped off topic here, haven't I?
Well, we can write whatever date you want on the invoice.
I could call Sweden, but my only motivation would be to talk to some babe with a Swedish accent. A good accent enhances a womens attractiveness. It's worth an extra cup size in most cases. An exception would be women from NY City, or worse yet from Long Island who have an exceedingly annoying accent. A chick with a Swedish or French accent is incapable of "talking too much"; the more the better in fact. But somebody from "The Island" only has to start the day with "ga mawnin" and you want to tell her to shut up for the rest of the day no matter how she looks.
I seemed to have slipped off topic here, haven't I?
Oh boy what a commentary! U need to spend some time either down south or out in the south west...
spike60
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Oh yes, the Southern girls rank right up at the top with the French and Swedish ones.
bigredd
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Seems Husqvarna has way too many models in the 50, 60 and 70 class pro saws. Also hear talk of a 550xp. Stihl makes it much easier on the buyer IMHO. Can't even order a 346xp without a high probability of getting an E-Tech that nobody wants.
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rbtree
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And then there's the (my) PNW gurl (s)
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Hey, you got a saw big enough to cut that butt?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/rbtree/sets/72157624162999759/detail/
By the way, where's my 2139? :chainsawguy:
:love1::blush:
Hey, you got a saw big enough to cut that butt?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/rbtree/sets/72157624162999759/detail/
By the way, where's my 2139? :chainsawguy:
SawTroll
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We don't really know about the 560xp, do we?
The press release etc is only about the 555 and the 562xp, and no updates on the bar mounts etc.
To conclude that way, you need to combine the weight spec of the 555 with the power spec of the 562xp, and it still wouldn't be quite the case, just close to.....
spike60
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Yeah, choice sucks, doesn't it? It's much easier on the buyer if he has less to pick from? OK, I get it.
Zombiechopper
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Well, we can write whatever date you want on the invoice.
I could call Sweden, but my only motivation would be to talk to some babe with a Swedish accent. A good accent enhances a womens attractiveness. It's worth an extra cup size in most cases. An exception would be women from NY City, or worse yet from Long Island who have an exceedingly annoying accent. A chick with a Swedish or French accent is incapable of "talking too much"; the more the better in fact. But somebody from "The Island" only has to start the day with "ga mawnin" and you want to tell her to shut up for the rest of the day no matter how she looks.
I seemed to have slipped off topic here, haven't I?
years ago I went to University with a Polish girl. She had the most beautiful thick accent. We were in a photography class together and when she would say "focus" it sounded like something much better....
bigredd
ArboristSite Guru
Sometimes "Keep it Simple" is a good thing. I'll wait and see which model rises to the top. Nobody wants to be stuck with the next 575xp.
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cgraham
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I don't understand why so much emphasis on capacity (cc). It is way of classifying saws, but not very useful because what we primarily care about is performance, weight and price (putting special features and uses aside).
Power is published as hp and rpm; other measures of interest such as torque and acceleration are not published, so we depend on user impressions for these qualities.
With modern engine designs, capacity now correlates so poorly with hp and weight, that it is not a useful figure. In fact it is a good way of getting naive buyers muddled, especially among the numerous Husky models. Advanced saw designs often have high hp and low weight compared to competitors of the same capacity.
As others have pointed out, the newly announced models threaten to make some other Huskies obsolete - except for one thing - price. The inferior 455 Rancher will only survive on price - maybe. The existing 357XP will be $160 more than the new new and similar (in hp and weight) 555. Few know what they will be getting for the difference - I don't, although I know the XP is a "professional saw" but only has 6 mo. warranty. Husqvarna does not explain in meaningful terms what the difference is between the two lines either on the web or in its catalog, just as they only vaguely explain what the X-torq engine offers ("more" - more than what? I want specifics!) Most XP models lack this "featured engine", but I have seen no details on what engine they have which may make them superior (and presumably the X-torq inferior).
Some XP models are much superior in power/weight ratio to their non XP counterparts; others are less so. They can be compared on the basis of their hp/wt ratio, a measure of efficiency - how much work they will do for what they weigh (a high number is better) . Pick two saws of the hp or weight you want and see which saw is the most efficient, and then see if the (usually disproportionate) price premium is worth it to you.
The ~50cc 346XP (hp/wt ratio .33) @ 11 lb has a 0.5 hp advantage over the corresponding model 450 - the difference in hp/wt ratio is 22%, but the price difference is 32%. The 56.5cc 357XP (hp/wt ratio .37) @ 12 lb has a 1 hp AND a 1 lb advantage over the corresponding Rancher 455 (a dog) and so the hp/wt ratio is 38% better, which is great, but which perhaps doesn't measure up to the 66% higher price of the 357XP (unless the XP has other valuable attributes).
The new ~60 cc 555 has a hp/wt ratio of 0.38 @ 11.8lb and the 12.3 lb 562XP is essentially identical at 0.36: the 9% hp improvement of the 562XP comes at a hefty cost and and proportional but heavy weight premium. Why the 0.7 lb weight difference?
Charlie.
Power is published as hp and rpm; other measures of interest such as torque and acceleration are not published, so we depend on user impressions for these qualities.
With modern engine designs, capacity now correlates so poorly with hp and weight, that it is not a useful figure. In fact it is a good way of getting naive buyers muddled, especially among the numerous Husky models. Advanced saw designs often have high hp and low weight compared to competitors of the same capacity.
As others have pointed out, the newly announced models threaten to make some other Huskies obsolete - except for one thing - price. The inferior 455 Rancher will only survive on price - maybe. The existing 357XP will be $160 more than the new new and similar (in hp and weight) 555. Few know what they will be getting for the difference - I don't, although I know the XP is a "professional saw" but only has 6 mo. warranty. Husqvarna does not explain in meaningful terms what the difference is between the two lines either on the web or in its catalog, just as they only vaguely explain what the X-torq engine offers ("more" - more than what? I want specifics!) Most XP models lack this "featured engine", but I have seen no details on what engine they have which may make them superior (and presumably the X-torq inferior).
Some XP models are much superior in power/weight ratio to their non XP counterparts; others are less so. They can be compared on the basis of their hp/wt ratio, a measure of efficiency - how much work they will do for what they weigh (a high number is better) . Pick two saws of the hp or weight you want and see which saw is the most efficient, and then see if the (usually disproportionate) price premium is worth it to you.
The ~50cc 346XP (hp/wt ratio .33) @ 11 lb has a 0.5 hp advantage over the corresponding model 450 - the difference in hp/wt ratio is 22%, but the price difference is 32%. The 56.5cc 357XP (hp/wt ratio .37) @ 12 lb has a 1 hp AND a 1 lb advantage over the corresponding Rancher 455 (a dog) and so the hp/wt ratio is 38% better, which is great, but which perhaps doesn't measure up to the 66% higher price of the 357XP (unless the XP has other valuable attributes).
The new ~60 cc 555 has a hp/wt ratio of 0.38 @ 11.8lb and the 12.3 lb 562XP is essentially identical at 0.36: the 9% hp improvement of the 562XP comes at a hefty cost and and proportional but heavy weight premium. Why the 0.7 lb weight difference?
Charlie.
The Count
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I understood from the brochure that x-torque allows max power over a wider rpm range.
as I see things, ratio is relative. for example, to make a car run with 300 km/h you need say (arbitrary, don`t take it literally) 300hp. to increase to 310 km/h you need extra 30 hp and so on.
on high end, for one gram of power you need more and more compared to basic. For me as I am an occasional user, few grams or even one kilo, wouldn`t mean the end of the world; but I can only imagine what 500 grams extra will do to someone working day-in day-out with the saw. same thing goes for acceleration and other features.
also I am wondering how much from the saw is politics and commercial cosmetics.
also I am afraid about new things being poorer than the old ones. therefore if you buy the new model, and nobody has it and tested it, surprises might just lurk around the corner...
just my 0.02 $
oh,btw anyone has Husky 570 ?
need info about it. is it as good as it sounds to me?
as I see things, ratio is relative. for example, to make a car run with 300 km/h you need say (arbitrary, don`t take it literally) 300hp. to increase to 310 km/h you need extra 30 hp and so on.
on high end, for one gram of power you need more and more compared to basic. For me as I am an occasional user, few grams or even one kilo, wouldn`t mean the end of the world; but I can only imagine what 500 grams extra will do to someone working day-in day-out with the saw. same thing goes for acceleration and other features.
also I am wondering how much from the saw is politics and commercial cosmetics.
also I am afraid about new things being poorer than the old ones. therefore if you buy the new model, and nobody has it and tested it, surprises might just lurk around the corner...
just my 0.02 $
oh,btw anyone has Husky 570 ?
need info about it. is it as good as it sounds to me?
dingeryote
Blueberry Baron
Yeah, choice seems to be a problem LOL!!
Heads up on Monday. It's opening day of Bambi season so I'll call ya when I'm either frying up still twitching Backstraps or tired of freezing in the rain.
Stay safe!
Dingeryote
dingeryote
Blueberry Baron
Telepatique,
Do yourself a favor. Skip dealing with the 570.
It's a back breaking terd for anything but bucking.
Stay safe!
Dingeryote
The Count
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yeah, I guess. it is 570 or 346 XP (the latter is more appealing though)
however mainly I will cut firewood and that comes from 8" to 20"
I thought 570 may come in handy. bucking those logs with 246 could be a real toil; don`t you think ?
however mainly I will cut firewood and that comes from 8" to 20"
I thought 570 may come in handy. bucking those logs with 246 could be a real toil; don`t you think ?
wigglesworth
Booned
The 570 is a worthless piece of machinery, IMHO. The one at the mill is pathetic.
spike60
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:agree2: Heavy and slow. Sort of like an early pre-dreadnought battleship at the battle of Jutland.
The Count
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c`mon; 4,9 hp
can`t be that bad.
and I have it here for the same money as 346 XP
that`s what started me thinking.
can`t be that bad.
and I have it here for the same money as 346 XP
that`s what started me thinking.
MacLaren
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I agree. I will prolly wind up owning one myself.
