Dangerous Trees

[lxt]

"the Dan"... I hear ya!! hey its whatever it takes to make a living!! I just get concerned on where this trade is going & how fast it is gonna get there, Meaninig: so many are getting killed, injured, rescued, etc... that it is just a matter of time before this trade is put under a microscope!!

Double AA, I am not bustin on ya or even worried about you in the sense of competition!!, I asked who you are & got no reply!! not sure why? hell if you really are serious about learning & need help I would gladly lend a hand, if you get ugly trees like that cherry.....PM me & Ill bring up the towable, Im sure you have those who love you & want you to make it home safely, I know treemandan does!!!! he`s got a lil girl that more than gives em reason to be safe!!

in our area & Double AA knows this; a guy was killed this past summer trimming around powerlines....he was merely a groundman with little to no experience in a bucket! & that same company is out there now still doing stupid stuff like that!!

Just be safe & know your limits, double AA if you wish to remain anonymous....whatever!! But I have helped other services out & would gladly do the same for you!!



LXT.................

 

[ropensaddle]

And although I have been found out as knowing probably 10% of what many of the lifelong tree work professionals here know. But still 1000% of what the average HO knows about tree work.

To many, if not most, here I am a "Hack" with not much more than self taught methods and procedures. But please keep in mind that my customers love me and my success is about 90% "Word of Mouth" I don't cheat people, I am honest with them*, and I give great clean-up!

*But:

When I say "Pittsburgh's Premier Tree Service" It's marketspeak for premium service at premium prices. It's like "take advantage of my low Winter rates" actually means I'm more expensive in the Winter 'cause it's cold as Heck out. But the rates are low for Winter rates.

Like I said before, I have a really good Marketing background. It's how it is out there, ever watch a commercial?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yX4fVUsOnkM

 

[the Aerialist]

Perhaps I have judged you too harshly ...

"the Dan"... I hear ya!! ... that it is just a matter of time before this trade is put under a microscope!!... PM me ... make it home safely, I know treemandan does!!!! he`s got a lil girl that more than gives em reason to be safe!!...

Thank you for all that. I'll PM you shortly. For your entertainment and others I'm sure, I will post a video that proves beyond all belief that I have been climbing trees and doing tree work since at least since 1987, the date on this video. Now this video and these practices may not meet all current regulation, whether they be OSHA, TCIA, DOT, USDA, USPA or NAACP (not that theres anything wrong with that) but since the statute of limitations has long ago run out on these (soon to be alleged) violations.

Therefore ~ Saving Lara's Kite :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tna6x3A-Yv8

 

[TreeAce]

AA..First just let me say that I hope u stick around. U have every "right" to be here as far as I am concerned. My comment about "attitude" ...well...I am not taken it back but I feel like u just got off on the wrong foot and then became very defensive. It was like u just kicked the front door in and yelled.."I m here!!" and that can be alittle harsh. Anyway...I do hope you stick around. And ...I am new as well and I have been "jumped" (for lack of better description) on one thing by one guy, but so what? I now look at it as "ribbing" and nothin more. Maybe this should be a PM but whatever. I think u could learn plenty here and also share some of what u know.

 

[ropensaddle]

AA..First just let me say that I hope u stick around. U have every "right" to be here as far as I am concerned. My comment about "attitude" ...well...I am not taken it back but I feel like u just got off on the wrong foot and then became very defensive. It was like u just kicked the front door in and yelled.."I m here!!" and that can be alittle harsh. Anyway...I do hope you stick around. And ...I am new as well and I have been "jumped" (for lack of better description) on one thing by one guy, but so what? I now look at it as "ribbing" and nothin more. Maybe this should be a PM but whatever. I think u could learn plenty here and also share some of what u know.

Yeah your gonna learn that them creme-sickles suck oke:

 

[lxt]

Yeah your gonna learn that them creme-sickles suck oke:

Easy there ropes!! I like cream sickles. Ha!


LXT...........is husky a make of saw or a dog? ah either way they`re a fun conversation piece.

 

[treeclimber101]

"the Dan"... I hear ya!! hey its whatever it takes to make a living!! I just get concerned on where this trade is going & how fast it is gonna get there, Meaninig: so many are getting killed, injured, rescued, etc... that it is just a matter of time before this trade is put under a microscope!!

Double AA, I am not bustin on ya or even worried about you in the sense of competition!!, I asked who you are & got no reply!! not sure why? hell if you really are serious about learning & need help I would gladly lend a hand, if you get ugly trees like that cherry.....PM me & Ill bring up the towable, Im sure you have those who love you & want you to make it home safely, I know treemandan does!!!! he`s got a lil girl that more than gives em reason to be safe!!

in our area & Double AA knows this; a guy was killed this past summer trimming around powerlines....he was merely a groundman with little to no experience in a bucket! & that same company is out there now still doing stupid stuff like that!!

Just be safe & know your limits, double AA if you wish to remain anonymous....whatever!! But I have helped other services out & would gladly do the same for you!!



LXT.................

Jeezus are you serious with the towbehind crap , I could be halfway up the tree while your over there leveling your "tow behind " , not that I have no respect for lawn monkies cutting trees but come on.. There are trees inaccessible with any machines , what do you do there price high and chalk it as a loss ....

 

[murphy4trees]

that was some serious kite rescuing...
risk vs reward though..
you Must be like the rest of us... needed your high...

 

[the Aerialist]

Back in the day ...

that was some serious kite rescuing...
risk vs reward though..
you Must be like the rest of us... needed your high...

Thanks Murf, you gave a rather scathing, yet polite, critique of my work and it caused me considerable introspection. I tried to be more careful and actually thought about your post several time yesterday. Thank You for that good advice.

I am looking for a good climber and if I find one I'm sure I can learn a lot from him, as well as my Nephew, John Boy who I am trying to teach to climb. The last thing I want to do is pass on my bad habits (some of which I didn't even know I had)

My daughter was 3 then, now she is 26 and just married to a guy I like. A hard thing to attain if you are dating my daughter.

 

[murphy4trees]

congatrats and wish you many grandchildren to carry on in the kite rescuing and other family traditions... You sound like you have a good wife too, which is somewhere between 50-60% of the trick to a good life...

that said, I was trying to be as delicate as possible with that critique. You seem like a good guy and I admire anyone that has the stones to take on tree work at a mature age.. You're not a loud mouth kid which is nice.

This is the kind of business that you can make the same mistakes in for 20 years, and never improve or adopt new techniques... I wouldn't still be in biz if I hadn't changed. The competition around here is so brutal.

Anyhow, hope you make it to the penn-del ISA symposium in Lancaster. Looks like a GREAT line-up and a lot to learn.. But in the end you really need to spend some time with a highly skilled climber, which is hard to come by. I got lucky when I met Big Jon... He changed my life! He was off the charts..

 

[lxt]

Jeezus are you serious with the towbehind crap , I could be halfway up the tree while your over there leveling your "tow behind " , not that I have no respect for lawn monkies cutting trees but come on.. There are trees inaccessible with any machines , what do you do there price high and chalk it as a loss ....

you couldnt get half way to climax with the help of a supermodel!! lawn monkies????? this post blows almost as hard as you do....well maybe not!!

1st off sprout.....Id be leveled & flying while you were puttin baby powder in your crack to prevent chaffing!

2nd, no lawn monkey here.......24 years climbing & doing tree work is far from lawn monkey.........& if the bucket cant get it????? I climb, hell even if the bucket can reach it Ive had to jump out & climb.

So....the only thing I chalk as a loss is a nutpump jackwagon like you!!!! you & I went round before......I dont wanna have to put your manhood in the ground again!




LXT.........................

 

[treeclimber101]

you couldnt get half way to climax with the help of a supermodel!! lawn monkies????? this post blows almost as hard as you do....well maybe not!!

1st off sprout.....Id be leveled & flying while you were puttin baby powder in your crack to prevent chaffing!

2nd, no lawn monkey here.......24 years climbing & doing tree work is far from lawn monkey.........& if the bucket cant get it????? I climb, hell even if the bucket can reach it Ive had to jump out & climb.

So....the only thing I chalk as a loss is a nutpump jackwagon like you!!!! you & I went round before......I dont wanna have to put your manhood in the ground again!




LXT.........................

Yea if your using a tow behind than your boyfriend use a ##### on , but that was a funny post , I was just breaking your stones ...

 

[the Aerialist]

I don't know about Lancaster ...

congatrats and wish you many grandchildren to carry on in the kite rescuing ...

But I am working on positioning myself better like you said for me to do.

This Photo was from yesterday :

And I am holding the saw with two hands. You can just see my left sleeve above my knee. (my hand still comes out of that sleeve).

 

[the Aerialist]

Some jobs are just safer with a lift ...

... I climb, hell even if the bucket can reach it I've had to jump out & climb...

When I worked as an IC climber they put me in their bucket truck. I used it to set my top line and got out and has a groundie take the boom away. That blew their mind, but when asked about the practice I said "you hired a climber, not another boom operator". Pretty soon they stopped sending the bucket truck with me.

Here's a photo from yesterday showing one tree that I would definitely prefer a lift for. I've got to go there tomorrow an walk out there on it. There's not much to get a proper top line on. There's a right was and a wrong way to do things. Limb walking this one is the wrong way (if you can avoid it).

Here's another angle where you can see the wires better:

The major lead to the right of the overhanging limb is too tall for a straight drop at any point due to the 20k Hi Volt wires on the street (unseen in this shot).

 

[Husky288XP]

What did you get for the three trees $ wise?

 

[the Aerialist]

Well that's somewhat confidential ...

What did you get for the three trees $ wise?

But just this one time I'll tell you. The bid was $2800 but I gave a $200 Angie's List discount (I'm running a promotion just now). These customers did their due diligence, they got three other bids. They didn't tell me what those bids were, but that I was the middle bid.

If you know this market (and I do) the bids were something like this:

Joe Schmo ~ outta work and used to cut trees down on the farm: $300
Me ~ $2600
Davy Tree ~ $3600

 

[jefflovstrom]

But I am working on positioning myself better like you said for me to do.

This Photo was from yesterday :

And I am holding the saw with two hands. You can just see my left sleeve above my knee. (my hand still comes out of that sleeve).

Your using two hands for sure. One problem. Position of your left hand.
Jeff

 

[murphy4trees]

You gonna lift that lead up off the service lines in one piece? Sometimes its easier that way..

What's up Steve?
How you doing?

 

[Husky288XP]

Not much Murph, Slowing down for Christmas and winter.

What are you up to?

 

[jefflovstrom]

You gonna lift that lead up off the service lines in one piece? Sometimes its easier that way..

What's up Steve?
How you doing?

Yup, tip tie and butt.
Jeff