Which of these Solo 681s looks fastest and strongest?

[PB]

What a train wreck. Start off discussing modified saws and end up at football, rt-PCR, gel electrophoresis, and G. Loomis fishing gear.

Why in the blue hells does this place look like lawnsite???

Sorry we threw a rock through a window. The window was on a train that went off the tracks and crashed terribly but I guess we were the ones that ruined it.

For the record, there was no discussion...only accusations.

 

[MCW]

"Hey don't think I'm here taking sides. I'm not as I really have no idea what the hell this thread is all about. I read to page 17 or something and gave up."

I didn't make it that far, and still don't have a clue as to what this thread is supposed to be about?? I saw some pretty fast/powerful saws cutting up some logs, without any before or after the mod's vid's, type of chain used, results of the testing in seconds etc....then all hell broke loose. Interested, I followed along for a few pages, then quit on page 9 or so when I saw the "kickin it in Tennessee video". It was more interesting, informative, and certainly more entertaining than anything else I saw in the thread.

I may become a follower of backwoods/country "Rap" because of all of this!.....Cliff

I liked the Giraffe fighting video. That was the coolest

 

[STIHLTHEDEERE]

Hey come on guys. By all means question Brad for other reasons but don't make out he is producing crap saws. He isn't. Do some other builders produce better saws? Probably, but Brad's saws aren't crap, well the ones I have aren't anyway.
A few of the comments here are starting to hint that people who have bought his saws are either gullible or stupid. I'm one of them and am certainly not gullible or stupid...

look while i agree with what you are saying,to a point. i am only doing to brad what he has done to me and many others on this forum. he needs a serious ego check,the best members here have tried to explain that to him,and he keeps his same crap up. he thinks he can do no wrong,ever! his arrogence continues to floor everyone here.

 

[gink595]

Hey come on guys. By all means question Brad for other reasons but don't make out he is producing crap saws. He isn't. Do some other builders produce better saws? Probably, but Brad's saws aren't crap, well the ones I have aren't anyway.
A few of the comments here are starting to hint that people who have bought his saws are either gullible or stupid. I'm one of them and am certainly not gullible or stupid...

I don't think that you're gullible or stupid, I think you have a good sense of character!

Have you ever had someone else port a saw for you besides Brad? That will show if your saw porter is making some gains or making real gains. Just a thought, it never hurts to try something new!

 

[indiansprings]

Edisto "I'm pretty sure the thread actually didn't have anything to do with you. Brad started a similar pre-emptive thread when he knew word was going to get out on a saw he rebuilt with a broken fin on it. As you can see, it creates confusion about the issue."

You know Edisto, I really overlooked the 066 broken fin issue, have to admit it didn't look good, but the guy swore he honestly didn't know and he eventually bought the saw back.

But the straw that broke the camels back with me was the 372 xt thread, I'm really glad the customer is happy, but you can never convince me that the jug didn't get the hell buggered out of it after looking at the piston, every other component of that saw was photo documented, "full disclosure" the only omission was the interior of that jug, sure as hell makes you wonder why.

Then there is a post like this. It's the every 30 day Snelling blowup, predominately caused by his need to call people out in thread like this. Damn I swear there are days that reading his post anyone who didn't no better would think it was BS (Brad's Site). You can't have it both ways, quoting the forum rules, when it fits your needs, running to the mods when it dosen't go your way but expect no backlash when you start a thread like this. Either a complete egomaniac or bi-polar. If it happened once or twice, everyone has a bad day, but damn it's like a broken record. He can't even stop and realize he is his own worst enemy. You earn respect in life, no one just gets it handed to you and it's sure easy to lose the respect of others.

I could care less who the parties are, it's not good for the site. I also get tired of every time " It's just a hobby" be honest call it what it is, it is a side business, no you may not make 250 a saw but how much are a few dremel bits, how much time does it really take? Again if your gonna put it out there as a sponsor scrutiny comes with the territory.

 

[komatsuvarna]

I posted the redneck rap videos. I don't even like rap, but them videos is alright....besides, this thread needed a little humor.

Me, I have no saw in this race ,but it doesn't matter what it is, someone/something is always going to be bigger and better. Thats just the way it is.

Just look at the top fella in anything, don't matter if its drag racing,nascar,golf, football,(you get the idea) or saw racing, even the best get beat sometimes.

 

[gink595]

Edisto "I'm pretty sure the thread actually didn't have anything to do with you. Brad started a similar pre-emptive thread when he knew word was going to get out on a saw he rebuilt with a broken fin on it. As you can see, it creates confusion about the issue."

You know Edisto, I really overlooked the 066 broken fin issue, have to admit it didn't look good, but the guy swore he honestly didn't know and he eventually bought the saw back.

But the straw that broke the camels back with me was the 372 xt thread, I'm really glad the customer is happy, but you can never convince me that the jug didn't get the hell buggered out of it after looking at the piston, every other component of that saw was photo documented, "full disclosure" the only omission was the interior of that jug, sure as hell makes you wonder why.

Then there is a post like this. It's the every 30 day Snelling blowup, predominately caused by his need to call people out in thread like this. Damn I swear there are days that reading his post anyone who didn't no better would think it was BS (Brad's Site). You can't have it both ways, quoting the forum rules, when it fits your needs, running to the mods when it dosen't go your way but expect no backlash when you start a thread like this. Either a complete egomaniac or bi-polar. If it happened once or twice, everyone has a bad day, but damn it's like a broken record. He can't even stop and realize he is his own worst enemy. You earn respect in life, no one just gets it handed to you and it's sure easy to lose the respect of others.

I could care less who the parties are, it's not good for the site. I also get tired of every time " It's just a hobby" be honest call it what it is, it is a side business, no you may not make 250 a saw but how much are a few dremel bits, how much time does it really take? Again if your gonna put it out there as a sponsor scrutiny comes with the territory.

Ya know, he has been told this time and time again. He'll read your post and then agree with you "Yeah I know I need to work on some things, I just love this hobby. When someone attacks my character I just feel I have to defend myself and I get upset and do things like this, I'm sorry everyone" it the same ole story over and over, anyone that don't believe me I'll dog the good ones up so you can read em. How many times can a guy slam his own hand on the door before he realizes it hurts!

After the 066 cylinder thread he lied his arse off saying he didn't know. Volks-man sent him the cylinder with pictures of it desribing it was broke, yet Brad lied and lied, that thread eventually got locked down and it was Brad's lowest point, yet the next day it was buisness as usual, answering posts and posting what he's working on like nothing happened. He loves this hobby becasue it pays so well.

Mark my words, Brad will keep going on about buisness as normal like this didn't happen, he will look past this as if were all wrong and are trying to pick on him, he won't even acknowledge he started this mess, it typical Brad...

25,000 is getting close.... Just saying

 

[STIHLTHEDEERE]

what happens @25000? where will he go then,i know for a fact there are "other" places on the "net" that want nothing to do w/him and his drama.

 

[gink595]

what happens @25000? where will he go then,i know for a fact there are "other" places on the "net" that want nothing to do w/him and his drama.

Who cares

 

[thomas72]

Wow. 24 pages long. I know I should have not clicked on this thread. All the fairly good builders I now who build "souped up" engines always send a dyno sheet with the engine and how the engine was set up. Why should these chainsaw builders be any different? Doesn't Madison have a dyno? If so, maybe builders should include in the price a dyno run of the saws. Then again maybe some of the builders would be afraid what the piece of paper will tell.

 

[tlandrum]

 

[gink595]

Wow. 24 pages long. I know I should have not clicked on this thread. All the fairly good builders I now who build "souped up" engines always send a dyno sheet with the engine and how the engine was set up. Why should these chainsaw builders be any different? Doesn't Madison have a dyno? If so, maybe builders should include in the price a dyno run of the saws. Then again maybe some of the builders would be afraid what the piece of paper will tell.

Like anything else though Dyno's can be manipulated to read false. I have a friend that has a motorcycle dyno shop and he's showed me how people cheat with those dyno sheets. Dyno's don't show real world performance, if you get into street bikes you'll see what I'm talking about. Peak Hp only gets you so far.

 

[tlandrum]

when building a saw for some one far away that cant be there in person to pick it up. i think it would be nice to get a before any mod timed cut video and an after mods timed cut video in the same kind of wood cant that most all cookie cutters use ( poplar,pine). that way you can compare your saw to other saws in similar conditions ,and should be done with off the roll chain that way chains not the deciding factor. most folks know what kind of gains there should be in a given saw and this would let you know if your saw is up to snuff or just a ground on run of the mill firwood saw. just a thought. and if you want to know which saws faster put them side by side in the same wood ,with same bar and chain ,same operator. otherwise its not a real honest side by side comparison.

 

[gink595]

The saws that Eric has ported for me have been done like that. My 7900 he sent me a stock vid and then sent me a after vid. He is doing the same thing with my 880. I think that tells alot there. It would also be smart for the purchaser to do the same. If a guy is good with video editing software they could speed the video up a bit to give the appearance.

 

[WoodChuck'r]

All I know is a man brought a saw to a GTG. I did no tuning to ether saw they where run as is, the saw was ran aginst a STOCK saw (witch BTW is still stock and available) by 3 different operators. the stock saw was noticeably quicker and more forgiving thats IT, after this finding the man who owned the saw was in shock to say the least, all I did was offer a port job if he would buy a new cly/piston, as said guilty as charged !, he seems to like the saw now that all that matters to me. To "me" the saw is rather impressive and i wouldn't be afraid to put it up against any 5ci work saw rev limiter and all.

For the few that don't know, that man was me. Yes, the guy who cheerleaded my head off for Brad in January of 2010. I've learned quite a bit since then. Most know that this was the first ported saw I ever got my hands on. Yes I did run it at a GTG in PA, an yes I did run it against a FULLY STOCK 681. That 681 belongs to a good dude named Nate. It was not Eric's saw. I'm not going to get into the fully elongated story (again) but Nate's saw was faster - same bar, same chain, same wood.

Yes, Eric offered to build the saw for me provided I bought a new P&C. I did so and sent the saw to him after I broke it in with about 12 tanks of fuel. The stock version of my 681 was more powerful than it was with the Brad cylinder. Clearly more powerful. I ran probably 50 tanks of fuel through the Brad cylinder - I got to know the saw rather well - running it stock I really noticed a difference in how the saw performed. Changing it back to stock blew my mind even more than the saw being beat by Nate's stocker.

I got the saw back from Eric in the early part of December and dang, it just plain rocks. And yes, Eric built the saw for free. I've said that once before in this thread already. I TRIED to pay him SOMETHING. But he sternly would not accept any money for it. He fully felt that I shouldn't have to pay him anything. I felt pretty bad about it but he assured me not to.

I'm trying my hardest here not to cheerlead. But honestly - what kind of a bad guy does that?? None that I'm aware of.....

I feel I can't thank him enough for what he did. His response though is usually "Thanks for the flowers Jason but it isn't necessary", lol.

I have kept cool with Brad about this whole thing as I don't see much reason to get angry about it. Most others seem to think I'm out of my farking mind and I have every right in the world to be truly pi$$ed off. I'm just not that kind of guy. I made my decisions, and dealt with it all the best way, the only way I knew how.

I have also been made aware that even PM's I shared with Brad from a totally different forum have surfaced

Yes Brad that was I. I have some seriously mixed feelings about what you did. You say that you sent me that whole PM conversation you had with Eric on RS to "show me Eric's true colors". I don't know. I have always treated you kindly, even after this blown out of proportion ridiculous 681 Saga and felt that you handled yourself rather well over it. But I'm starting to believe that it's not Eric's true colors you have shown me, I believe you have shown me yours.

Since you and I spoke on the phone last April, I've always been concerned about this eventually exploding. I never wanted to see this happen. You know this as I've mentioned it to you many more times than once, and you even agreed each and every time that you felt the same way. Then you go and send me your PM conversation with Eric and start this thread. I know we've been cool in the past Brad, but your recent actions really have me wondering......

Sending me that PM conversation (as far as I'm concerned) was the lowest of the low. Big disappointment Brad. Big disappointment.

 

[indiansprings]

Woodchuck, excellent post, you've seem to be pretty humble over a deal that prolly cost you 250.00 plus shipping both ways plus the cost of a new jug, can't say I'd be near the man you have about it. In a way it's one of life's cheaper lessons.
Got to get a new remote for the splitter, somehow the boys broke the dang handle off one right at dark last night, thank goodness farm stores in are area are open from 10-3 on Sundays.

 

[gink595]

I heard he shared the PM's with the mods and owner here trying to get Eric banned. I guess that was one way to eliminate the competition

One question though why would you send PM's that had nothing to do with this site to the moderators here... It didn't make any sense to me. And yes I did get fowarded some PM's and have read them... Your a low life Brad

I hope today's Sunday Sermon did you some good...LOL

 

[sachsmo]

Ya know, he has been told this time and time again. He'll read your post and then agree with you "Yeah I know I need to work on some things, I just love this hobby. When someone attacks my character I just feel I have to defend myself and I get upset and do things like this, I'm sorry everyone" it the same ole story over and over, anyone that don't believe me I'll dog the good ones up so you can read em. How many times can a guy slam his own hand on the door before he realizes it hurts!

After the 066 cylinder thread he lied his arse off saying he didn't know. Volks-man sent him the cylinder with pictures of it desribing it was broke, yet Brad lied and lied, that thread eventually got locked down and it was Brad's lowest point, yet the next day it was buisness as usual, answering posts and posting what he's working on like nothing happened. He loves this hobby becasue it pays so well.

Mark my words, Brad will keep going on about buisness as normal like this didn't happen, he will look past this as if were all wrong and are trying to pick on him, he won't even acknowledge he started this mess, it typical Brad...

25,000 is getting close.... Just saying

Yup,

Brad is like the bird that comes crashing into your window.

He see's his reflection, and doesn't like it!

He's just too vain to realize it!

 

[STIHLTHEDEERE]

For the few that don't know, that man was me. Yes, the guy who cheerleaded my head off for Brad in January of 2010. I've learned quite a bit since then. Most know that this was the first ported saw I ever got my hands on. Yes I did run it at a GTG in PA, an yes I did run it against a FULLY STOCK 681. That 681 belongs to a good dude named Nate. It was not Eric's saw. I'm not going to get into the fully elongated story (again) but Nate's saw was faster - same bar, same chain, same wood.

Yes, Eric offered to build the saw for me provided I bought a new P&C. I did so and sent the saw to him after I broke it in with about 12 tanks of fuel. The stock version of my 681 was more powerful than it was with the Brad cylinder. Clearly more powerful. I ran probably 50 tanks of fuel through the Brad cylinder - I got to know the saw rather well - running it stock I really noticed a difference in how the saw performed. Changing it back to stock blew my mind even more than the saw being beat by Nate's stocker.

I got the saw back from Eric in the early part of December and dang, it just plain rocks. And yes, Eric built the saw for free. I've said that once before in this thread already. I TRIED to pay him SOMETHING. But he sternly would not accept any money for it. He fully felt that I shouldn't have to pay him anything. I felt pretty bad about it but he assured me not to.

I'm trying my hardest here not to cheerlead. But honestly - what kind of a bad guy does that?? None that I'm aware of.....

I feel I can't thank him enough for what he did. His response though is usually "Thanks for the flowers Jason but it isn't necessary", lol.

I have kept cool with Brad about this whole thing as I don't see much reason to get angry about it. Most others seem to think I'm out of my farking mind and I have every right in the world to be truly pi$$ed off. I'm just not that kind of guy. I made my decisions, and dealt with it all the best way, the only way I knew how.



Yes Brad that was I. I have some seriously mixed feelings about what you did. You say that you sent me that whole PM conversation you had with Eric on RS to "show me Eric's true colors". I don't know. I have always treated you kindly, even after this blown out of proportion ridiculous 681 Saga and felt that you handled yourself rather well over it. But I'm starting to believe that it's not Eric's true colors you have shown me, I believe you have shown me yours.

Since you and I spoke on the phone last April, I've always been concerned about this eventually exploding. I never wanted to see this happen. You know this as I've mentioned it to you many more times than once, and you even agreed each and every time that you felt the same way. Then you go and send me your PM conversation with Eric and start this thread. I know we've been cool in the past Brad, but your recent actions really have me wondering......

Sending me that PM conversation (as far as I'm concerned) was the lowest of the low. Big disappointment Brad. Big disappointment.

ahh,VERY well said.........NOW,THIS folks is the TRUE BRAD SNELLING we all know. gee,what a guy,what a christian?,sorry to be the one to say it,what a low life P.O.S. what a complete fake,phonie,and most of all hopocrite.

 

[STIHLTHEDEERE]

I heard he shared the PM's with the mods and owner here trying to get Eric banned. I guess that was one way to eliminate the competition

One question though why would you send PM's that had nothing to do with this site to the moderators here... It didn't make any sense to me. And yes I did get fowarded some PM's and have read them... Your a low life Brad

I hope today's Sunday Sermon did you some good...LOL

he probably wrote the sermon,its the best ever,just ask him,he will tell you...........