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masculator said:
Are the chains husky use that rubbish that they fly off the bar???

what you say about feel and balance is why I didn't buy a 390 or 395 husky when I bought my 660 so I guess in that regard it is each to their own I also do not like the styling or lack there of that the huskies seem to keep pumping out and the fact the plastic melts to the exhaust etc. seriously I think they are still using the same dies they were when they started to produce saws, and until recently have not had any real innovation in their range aside from the xtorque range which they really bought when the bought out redmax, and the aircurtain thing that they got by once again buying out jonsered. stihl have countered this by not buying out the innovators but by using their own innovation!

as for the dolmar thing as I said I looked and there were only a couple of reasons I didn't go that way. I think you meant a 658 in the solo not the 656, and this is a saw that really interests me! the 681 although I have heard good things about it is not really in a size range I want at the moment. My next consideration would be something around the 120cc range and as there are only 2 manufacturers currently building in the said range it will be one of the 2 and at present the 3120 is running second by a good stretch!
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yeah go the 880 best saw ever built, reliable,powerfull , well built, excellent all round design simply the best
 
masculator said:
Are the chains husky use that rubbish that they fly off the bar???

what you say about feel and balance is why I didn't buy a 390 or 395 husky when I bought my 660 so I guess in that regard it is each to their own I also do not like the styling or lack there of that the huskies seem to keep pumping out and the fact the plastic melts to the exhaust etc. seriously I think they are still using the same dies they were when they started to produce saws, and until recently have not had any real innovation in their range aside from the xtorque range which they really bought when the bought out redmax, and the aircurtain thing that they got by once again buying out jonsered. stihl have countered this by not buying out the innovators but by using their own innovation!

as for the dolmar thing as I said I looked and there were only a couple of reasons I didn't go that way. I think you meant a 658 in the solo not the 656, and this is a saw that really interests me! the 681 although I have heard good things about it is not really in a size range I want at the moment. My next consideration would be something around the 120cc range and as there are only 2 manufacturers currently building in the said range it will be one of the 2 and at present the 3120 is running second by a good stretch!
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fubar isnt chains flying off...but in racing it does happen, and with those types of chains and at that chain speed, you better be wearing 2 pairs of chaps....literaly!

feel is exactly that... a personal thing......but dont start on inovation or old dies....care to look at the quality of the current stihl 660 cylinder castings....and then there is the filtration.......whoops sorry :greenchainsaw:

there is no 658....it is 656

yes the 3120 has its draw backs ....not sure of the coil rpm in oz, but you can get the H speed jet made adjustable....
 
masculator said:
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and until recently have not had any real innovation in their range aside from the xtorque range which they really bought when the bought out redmax, and the aircurtain thing that they got by once again buying out jonsered. stihl have countered this by not buying out the innovators but by using their own innovation!


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From where I sit Husky are the ones that innovated with the coil spring (better) AV, higher rev range engines/higher chain speed, etc. Stihl have been playing catch up, trading on their name (and admittedly excellent build quality) but have caught up fast.

I have a giggle at mates that tell me Huskies rev too high for our hardwood "they are designed for softwoods.." Of course that ignores all the modern saw designs.

When a mate and neighbour told me he didn't like Huskies (I can cope with that) to justify the purchase of an 076, and then that a slower chain speed was better, I couldn't help myself and said that by that logic he better get the old crosscut out of the shed and sharpen it :laugh:
 
RandyMac said:
When was the last time you got bowled ass over tea kettle by a chainsaw?
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when I was an apprentice.......we were building a pole home, using 12 inch round hardwood poles as the main vertical supports of the structure....we had all the bearers and floor joists in, but no flooring down.....had a couple of half sheets of partical board flooring scattered to support a couple of A frame tresstles...I was cutting the tops off of the poles, I was a good 8 foot off the floor joists, well one pole top went the wrong way and landed on the edge of one of the partical board sheets, flipping it over and folding up the A frame, which I was on....as this started to happen I had to hold the saw, still running in one hand and reach to the pole and grab onto it to stop the tresstle from falling over.......I managed to stay up right and juggle the saw from rear handle to wrap and flick the off switch....passed it down to my boss....we both had a knowing smile (saying WTF only dumb luck saved my arse)...

that was the first saw I ever used and rebuilt.....husky 266 that was bought from a ritchie bros auction in vancouver and it came from a landing apparently...... it was still going many years later even though that boss had tried to kill it by extreme abuse more than once
 
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husq2100 said:
fubar isnt chains flying off...but in racing it does happen, and with those types of chains and at that chain speed, you better be wearing 2 pairs of chaps....literaly!

feel is exactly that... a personal thing......but dont start on inovation or old dies....care to look at the quality of the current stihl 660 cylinder castings....and then there is the filtration.......whoops sorry :greenchainsaw:

there is no 658....it is 656

yes the 3120 has its draw backs ....not sure of the coil rpm in oz, but you can get the H speed jet made adjustable....
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my apologies you are right it is a 656, as for the filtration on the 660 it really is better than the majority of what is on the market. It is just that us stihl owners are fussy about what we do to our toys! as for the castings mine is fine so cannot say that there is an issue have seen quite a few and have not seen anything I would consider detrimental.

wasn't referring to the fubar thing with the chains flying off was referring to being shot from a safe distance. Personally I still wouldn't be afraid of running the saw if it is as good as it is meant to be it will handle it and hey saws are meant to cut wood if they don't they are just a waste of resources!
 
masculator said:
my apologies you are right it is a 656, as for the filtration on the 660 it really is better than the majority of what is on the market. It is just that us stihl owners are fussy about what we do to our toys! as for the castings mine is fine so cannot say that there is an issue have seen quite a few and have not seen anything I would consider detrimental.

wasn't referring to the fubar thing with the chains flying off was referring to being shot from a safe distance. Personally I still wouldn't be afraid of running the saw if it is as good as it is meant to be it will handle it and hey saws are meant to cut wood if they don't they are just a waste of resources!
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well it may be able to handle it....but since I have zero experinence with nitro meth and tuning a saw of that type.....and ontop of that built by one of the all time best race saw builders that no longer builds saws............................................
 
masculator said:
my apologies you are right it is a 656, as for the filtration on the 660 it really is better than the majority of what is on the market. It is just that us stihl owners are fussy about what we do to our toys! as for the castings mine is fine so cannot say that there is an issue have seen quite a few and have not seen anything I would consider detrimental.

wasn't referring to the fubar thing with the chains flying off was referring to being shot from a safe distance. Personally I still wouldn't be afraid of running the saw if it is as good as it is meant to be it will handle it and hey saws are meant to cut wood if they don't they are just a waste of resources!
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im not fussy the 660/880 filtration is just useless, end of story
 
tdi-rick said:
From where I sit Husky are the ones that innovated with the coil spring (better) AV, higher rev range engines/higher chain speed, etc. Stihl have been playing catch up, trading on their name (and admittedly excellent build quality) but have caught up fast.

I have a giggle at mates that tell me Huskies rev too high for our hardwood "they are designed for softwoods.." Of course that ignores all the modern saw designs.

When a mate and neighbour told me he didn't like Huskies (I can cope with that) to justify the purchase of an 076, and then that a slower chain speed was better, I couldn't help myself and said that by that logic he better get the old crosscut out of the shed and sharpen it :laugh:
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In all honesty although I bit back at HUSQ I have appreciation for the huskies as I do the stihls and the other quality brands out there, and although I like my stihls I am not blind to what the others have achieved or for that matter not achieved. personally I like my stihls for my reasons but I probably would never buy a 441 in preference to a 460 but I would always buy a 362 in preference to a 346 husky because thats what I prefer. My old man is a mcchulloch fan like randy and has used some big ones in his time but approaching 70 we just fixed up his promac 650 and put a new 20 inch bar and chain on it and it cuts well, not as fast as my 034 but strong none the less. When I was younger I knew a lot of pine fallers who used the huskies, j,reds and oleo macs, and there were things I saw in their saws that I liked but there were a lot of things I didn't like. In my late teens I worked in the bush in central NSW cutting Ironbark in conditions that were hard on saws and honestly there were only 2 brands of saws that made the grade and lasted any time, husky wasn't one! One of these saws I still have and honestly she has proven herself time and again and has done more hours HARD work than most saws ever made, and this is what has created my loyalty to the stihl name, and why she just got rebuilt! I can understand the "huskies are made for softwood" comment, because they were very good saws in the softwood industry but to say it is because they rev too high is just BS because if you look at the stats they do about the same as the other comparable brands. When I see a husky that convinces me that I should buy it I will but at the moment I am not seeing it although the new 5 series saws are getting my interest. they are looking like husky are having a go!
 
masculator said:
In all honesty although I bit back at HUSQ I have appreciation for the huskies as I do the stihls and the other quality brands out there, and although I like my stihls I am not blind to what the others have achieved or for that matter not achieved. personally I like my stihls for my reasons but I probably would never buy a 441 in preference to a 460 but I would always buy a 362 in preference to a 346 husky because thats what I prefer. My old man is a mcchulloch fan like randy and has used some big ones in his time but approaching 70 we just fixed up his promac 650 and put a new 20 inch bar and chain on it and it cuts well, not as fast as my 034 but strong none the less. When I was younger I knew a lot of pine fallers who used the huskies, j,reds and oleo macs, and there were things I saw in their saws that I liked but there were a lot of things I didn't like. In my late teens I worked in the bush in central NSW cutting Ironbark in conditions that were hard on saws and honestly there were only 2 brands of saws that made the grade and lasted any time, husky wasn't one! One of these saws I still have and honestly she has proven herself time and again and has done more hours HARD work than most saws ever made, and this is what has created my loyalty to the stihl name, and why she just got rebuilt! I can understand the "huskies are made for softwood" comment, because they were very good saws in the softwood industry but to say it is because they rev too high is just BS because if you look at the stats they do about the same as the other comparable brands. When I see a husky that convinces me that I should buy it I will but at the moment I am not seeing it although the new 5 series saws are getting my interest. they are looking like husky are having a go!
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each to their own mate :msp_thumbsup:....stihl do make a damn good saw.....i like the old 066 power to weigh...just not a big fan of its feel....I do like its inboard clutch.....but im quite happy with my 288xps all the same....the 046/460 would be a good project saw for me I think
 

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