Poll: What model for the next AS build off??

[wendell]

Hey Wendell. You proved his point man. Now if we could just figure out what his point is? Longer the bar, better the logger maybe? Or, theres an idiot in every crowd?

I guess I did, at least in his mind and that seems to be a very, very scary place.

I think your last point is most likely.

But, I do have a 42" bar. Guess that makes me a hell of a logger in his world. I will sleep well tonight.

 

[rms61moparman]

If not for the fact that he is incapable of learning at an advanced level, I would be VERY tempted to take a couple of files, some emery cloth and a video camera and show him just how full of bovine manure he actually is!!!

Mike

 

[little possum]

Mini-Mac



Seriously Scotty, lay off the posts about porting. Your not gonna win. I dont even have 100$ in my porting tools. And would be glad to do it with a file and emery cloth if thats all I had.
Just to run a saw, and feel the difference from stock to a descent woodsport is awesome. Especially if you know you created that difference with your own hands.

A 660 is a better cutting saw than a 880 out of the box. They say no replacement for displacement... WRONG! A 660 will walk over a 880 till you get past a 36" bar.

No need for the bigger saw when a smaller one gets the job done. I mean yea, I have a 3120 with a 6' bar. Big deal. Ill carry the 394 toting a 36" over the 3120 anyday.
Also a ported saw takes no more maintanence, just keep the filters clean, screen unclogged and the tanks full.
It may take tuning for altitude, but I dont see you going from 2000 to 8000 in a day? Thats a heck of a climb up a hill.

And if you would have kept up with the original "worksaw build off" thread. You would have seen that it was a WORKSAW build off. The rules were strict, and a race saw would have burnt up during the testing. A woods port is something that time and time again has been proven in the woods. Yea it may shorten the life of a machine, but I think that a small amount of every paycheck should go towards a backup saw plan. Just logical thinking when you make a living on the shoestring.

Now, back to the Mini-Mac build off!

 

[MCW]

A 660 is a better cutting saw than a 880 out of the box. They say no replacement for displacement... WRONG! A 660 will walk over a 880 till you get past a 36" bar.

Those 880's must be gutless The pop upped and modded 660 I had or my two ported 390XP's won't walk over my stock 3120 even with a 24" bar - close but no cigar

Self feeding yes but lean into them and not a hope. Unfortunately no matter how good somebody is at porting you'll be struggling to catch 27cc of displacement.

Now if only we could mount a turbo or blower...

 

[sawfun9]

If the wood is very hard an 880 will win over a 660 over 30". Granted a stock 880 doesn't seem impressive in some types of wood but it is a lot harder to pinch the bar and stop the chain with the 880 compared to the 660. At least thats the way mine work when stumping.

 

[MCW]

If the wood is very hard an 880 will win over a 660 over 30". Granted a stock 880 doesn't seem impressive in some types of wood but it is a lot harder to pinch the bar and stop the chain with the 880 compared to the 660. At least thats the way mine work when stumping.

I probably should have added that I'm referring to the Australian delivered 880's and 3120's. I know the Aussie 3120's have a higher rev limit (12,000rpm) than the US delivered saws (9,700-9,800rpm). I think your 880's are limited lower than ours too from memory.
I've done the comparos and my modded 390XP's weren't even close with a 24" bar, brand new RSC chain, and hardwood. The modded 660 I had was close but no cigar however that 660 drank even more juice than my 3120 and thats saying something
If anyone hear can show that they've produced more torque (not HP but torque) out of a 660 than a stock 880/3120 then I'm all ears. This is one point I'd love to be proven wrong on Cause then I can sell my 3120!

 

[wyk]

If the wood is very hard an 880 will win over a 660 over 30". Granted a stock 880 doesn't seem impressive in some types of wood but it is a lot harder to pinch the bar and stop the chain with the 880 compared to the 660. At least thats the way mine work when stumping.

When are we gonna see that ported 880 in action? The only video I have of it is with a dull chain. So it was well over a minute in 36" of Fir. That was after we stumped 4' of Fir and some maple. I was very impressed with the torque of that non-ported 880, but the 066 was faster bucking 3' Fir that day, and the ported 385xp put them both to shame(doing it in nearly half the time). So we'll be needing that ported 880 video.

 

[edisto]

Actually, the original topic of the thread is what model of saw should be used for the next build-off. Any thoughts?




Oh...by the way, P O R T I N G I S N O T E X P E N S I V E !

Well that is fine for the guys that are like you with extra money:taped: I suggest a build off earlier on. 440 Stihl versus 372 done in 4 hours and under a $100 dollars, and no machine shop tools, hand tools and emery cloth,old school and simple.

So inexpensive is fine for guys like me with lots of money?

I think what we have here is a literacy issue.

Actually, it's pretty clear that this is a simple case of a lack of parental supervision. Do you think it's time to stop feeding the troll?

 

[Gologit]

So inexpensive is fine for guys like me with lots of money?

I think what we have here is a literacy issue.

Actually, it's pretty clear that this is a simple case of a lack of parental supervision. Do you think it's time to stop feeding the troll?

Sssssssshhhh. I think he went away. That's good.

 

[mdavlee]

Man this thread got a lot longer after I went to bed. I'm glad I don't have email notifications for each post. This reminds me of the 660 vs 390 thread treeslingr had with bb20.

 

[Mastermind]

I've been reading along in amazement. How could anyone be so ####ing dumb??? I ain't even gonna say who I'm talking about, I bet ya'll can figure that out yourselves. :msp_wink:

 

[sachsmo]

Sssssssshhhh. I think he went away. That's good.

Don't count your Chickens yet.

Bet he is just sleeping off last nights "bender".

 

[sachsmo]

I've been reading along in amazement. How could anyone be so ####ing dumb??? I ain't even gonna say who I'm talking about, I bet ya'll can figure that out yourselves. :msp_wink:

Some people tell so many whoppers they have a hard time with reality.
I know this as fact, I work with a few :hmm3grin2orange:

 

[Chris J.]

So your saying I am dumb and ignorant...

Your posts are more revealing than anything anybody here says about you.

 

[Blowncrewcab]

It has crossed my mind that it is really dh1984, this guy showed up exactly when dh went away. Possible?

 

[WKEND LUMBERJAK]

Well it looks like the 7900 has the lead. That is what I voted for. Stumpy are you Ready?
I would assume the makita brother is also accepted.

 

[Chris J.]

It has crossed my mind that it is really dh1984, this guy showed up exactly when dh went away. Possible?

Possible, but judging by their respective writing skills, no. HBRN has good writing skills, and it's very difficult consistantly write in the "style" of dh. I've tried a couple of time as a joke.

There was another member who registered shortly after dh & his "cousin" got banned, gave his location as TN, and his writing closely resembled that of dh. I don't think he's still around.

 

[little possum]

Those 880's must be gutless The pop upped and modded 660 I had or my two ported 390XP's won't walk over my stock 3120 even with a 24" bar - close but no cigar

I think you know what Im talkin bout Matt Just seems the 084 and 880s I have ran just seemed to be slower. But they also turn less Rs than a 660. And you can tell the 88s are made for long bards. Id rather sling a 660 in the woods all day But through a 24" and a 8 pin and then the 120ccs will rip!

 

[FATGUY]

I guess whoever hosts the competition will decide the saw and the rules.

 

[sachsmo]

I guess whoever hosts the competition will decide the saw and the rules.

Hmmm,

House rules eh?

Might have to put a small GTG on at my place.

Perhaps a mill-off, I got a bunch of big Ash that needs slabbed.

Burying a bar in some long rips can put any saw made under extreme stress.