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If anyone gets this message....Please send supplies and rations....got pretty buried up on the hill
I'll load up the Stearman. The hopper has a real small outlet so be prepared for lots of cans of sardines, beanie-weinies, and several boxes of loose saltines. Maybe some candy bars. That should take care of the basic food groups.
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Wear some Kevlar, flyin over Haywire you're liable to get mistaken for a Revenuer and shot at :msp_biggrin:
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No need for fire arms. That thing is so slow you could hit it with a rock.
Hmmm, then you might have to go the Vietnam route, play screaming loud music from speakers attached to your plane to try and scare them away..... it didn't work over there but it might be worth a try here, I'd hate to see some BAT 21 #### happen where you get shot down and Nate, John, and myself have to head in to try and get you out
Bottled, Bagged, Boxed, and Canned?
Did you know that you can buy canned cabbage? Not sour kraut, but good old cabbage. I gave a can away at Christmas. I built a theme around a Fart Calendar.
An artist friend of mine made a "Cheese Calendar" a few years ago. She went so far as to invent fake cheese-themed holidays. I wish she'd made it an annual thing. I would never follow another calendar. As I recall, the Festival Of Camembert is coming up soon...
This
Who Farted? 2012 Calendar: Main Description: $15.99: Workman Publishing
along with the cabbage, beans, chili and PBR made a great gift. The receiver was worried that the battery on the calendar might not last the year.
Who Farted? 2012 Calendar: Main Description: $15.99: Workman Publishing
along with the cabbage, beans, chili and PBR made a great gift. The receiver was worried that the battery on the calendar might not last the year.
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Gubmint employees, especially the ones you are supposed to call who are listed at the bottom of a summer job notice, yet you can't get a hold of them cause they're on vacation for two weeks and the next person in line you speak to responds with, "Uh... it's not my job so I don't know anything about it." :bang:
Morons.
Morons.
Not necessarily. Gubmint employees have to be very careful, and are trained to be very careful, in divulging information about jobs. What you tell one person, has to be the same as what you tell the other person, or complaints and lawsuits can erupt.
And, I'd probably have been one of those who might have worked for the person hiring, but I wouldn't know much about the job, because my job was keeping loggers in line, not hiring. I tried to stay away from such things as hiring and personnel rules, which seem to change hourly.
Hardly moronic, unless you don't understand what can happen if one says something misleading.
forestryworks
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I understand. It's just the "not my job" comment that irks me, a sign of laziness to me.
But whatever, they're gubmint employees. I bet he was a clock watcher. He was pretty gruff I extended his day by 45 seconds.
All he had to say was, "well, I'm not sure, but I can direct you to someone else who knows." But having more than one person know the details of a summer job is too much to ask I guess.
With all the downsizing of people, there likely wasn't somebody who knew. I'm not kidding on that. Plus, don't call on a Friday. Lots of folks work ten hour days and take Friday off. Don't get folks p.o'd at you.
You are trying to get a job, for goodness sakes.
I agree. I hire a lot of seasonal workers at various levels. By regulation, I cannot give details of either the applicants, the hiring process/procedures, or background/security checks/drug testing to anyone else. I also have to be extremely careful handling the personal details of the applicants. Each application package contains enough personal information that a dishonest individual could do a complete identity theft of an applicant. I keep that stuff locked up and when the process is over, all that stuff is shredded and incinerated.
There is a much better response though than "it's not my job."
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Learned that one years ago.
I usually call, leave a voice mail, and immediately follow up with an email.
Another thing is, some don't even bother calling back or emailing back. Lack of professionalism there. It'd be nice to know if they are still hiring or not so I can move on and look elsewhere. Time is short for summer jobs.
I understand this IS the whining thread.
You may want to rethink your approach if you want these" Morons" to pay your salary.
Does the faller jump in the skidder after the tree hits the ground?
Does the chaser run the line machine?
You may want to rethink your approach if you want these" Morons" to pay your salary.
Does the faller jump in the skidder after the tree hits the ground?
Does the chaser run the line machine?
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Eh, what I'm gettin' at is, it makes no sense to take off on a two week vacation when you're obviously the only person with knowledge about the job. It is hiring season after all. You can take off when the hiring stuff is done.
I even called the district supervisor (among 6 other people) and he didn't "know anything about it."
It can't be that hard to have a second person who knows the job details and can answer prospective employees' questions in case No. 1 takes off. That's just common sense.
But, whatever.
I even called the district supervisor (among 6 other people) and he didn't "know anything about it."
It can't be that hard to have a second person who knows the job details and can answer prospective employees' questions in case No. 1 takes off. That's just common sense.
But, whatever.
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One key to remember, and I'm not just applying this to your frustration with hiring officials, but that there is a certain level of dysfunction
in every government office- whether it be local, city/municipal, county, state, or federal. It's just how it is. You have to manage that as best
you can. There's also a similar level of dysfunction at every large corporation or private entity.
in every government office- whether it be local, city/municipal, county, state, or federal. It's just how it is. You have to manage that as best
you can. There's also a similar level of dysfunction at every large corporation or private entity.
I can say that in my office, the person requesting employees for a position and the person hiring them are not the same person. They're not even in the same state. This is why we never get a full crew -- the request goes up the chain, is approved locally, then goes to the Great Hiring System In The Sky, which cares very little about whatever work we need done. When a job announcement DOES show up, it's according to no schedule in particular, and is usually only up for a week. Then we have to go through the whole shebang again. Usually it's three rounds per year. We finally give up about June 1 because that's when we've got to get serious about training. There ARE some short-cuts -- there's an honor-based system where managers can hire seasonal employees directly from schools as paid interns. I forget what it's called.
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