Brand new MS261 woes.

[cutforfun]

Yep....none of the get broken in, oil film, fluid dynamics...if it is tuned right there is no reason for it not to crank according to the manufacturer's directions everytime from new. I expect every saw I rebuild to fire on the first couple of pulls after I hit the primer. I might change the plug just for funz, but otherwise, this saw goes back to the dealer to be sorted out.

I agree a saw should start, but leave the choke on and pull it over a few extra times and it is going to flood. The guy kept flooding the saw and there for it was a POS.

 

[1Alpha1]

I agree a saw should start, but leave the choke on and pull it over a few extra times and it is going to flood. The guy kept flooding the saw and there for it was a POS.

For the record, I NEVER called it a POS. I was upset / disappointed that it was being such a turd to start.

And, I'm not a noob when it comes to being around two-stroke engines. And, I did what needed to be done to get it running.

It's much easier now that I figured out what it takes to get it lit off. Seems like each and every small engine is just different enough that you have to learn what it takes to get it going.

 

[opinion]

For the record, I NEVER called it a POS. I was upset / disappointed that it was being such a turd to start.

And, I'm not a noob when it comes to being around two-stroke engines. And, I did what needed to be done to get it running.

It's much easier now that I figured out what it takes to get it lit off. Seems like each and every small engine is just different enough that you have to learn what it takes to get it going.

With your experience, you should've known this. Now go cut!

 

[stihlrookie]

This thread stinks.

 

[Wicked500R]

For the record, I NEVER called it a POS. I was upset / disappointed that it was being such a turd to start.

And, I'm not a noob when it comes to being around two-stroke engines. And, I did what needed to be done to get it running.

It's much easier now that I figured out what it takes to get it lit off. Seems like each and every small engine is just different enough that you have to learn what it takes to get it going.

I had a 1986 Honda CR500R... That piston had to be set into a precise spot with the kickstarter before the starter was sent home and it would fire. When I first got it.. it took me a damn month, 2 pairs of boots and a severely bruised calf to figure it out. Some engines are just need the touch...

 

[1Alpha1]

I had a 1986 Honda CR500R... That piston had to be set into a precise spot with the kickstarter before the starter was sent home and it would fire. When I first got it.. it took me a damn month, 2 pairs of boots and a severely bruised calf to figure it out. Some engines are just need the touch...

I had a 1986 XR600R Honda. Even with the comp. release, it'd catch you off guard and let you know you weren't paying attention to piston position.

 

[1Alpha1]

I have often said, "The practice of thrift begins with the purchase of quality." However, in this case the OP has made a purchase for which he has no immediate need. I am a proponent of matching the tool to the job. In this instance a saw that ran (even without a bar and chain) would be suitable for just starting. In this case the OP should have simply borrowed or rented a saw when the time came to need one rather than buy one he is not using.

Kind of like buying a wrecker in case your car breaks down rather than joining AAA.

The next time I think about making a major purchase, I'll check with you first. :rolleyes2:

BTW....I'm really into firearms. You should see my collection. Some I don't even shoot.

 

[PLMCRZY]

I've been around motorcycles since age 8. Worked in a couple shops as a teen. I have two younger brothers, and between the three of us, we've owned over 100 bikes. We all raced off-road for years and did quite well.

Back in Nov. of 2002, I was looking for a new road bike. Always had an eye for a BMW. For years, I could never justify paying what they ask for them.

Well, after years of working hard and saving some money here and there, I was in a position to buy one, if I wanted to.

I could have kept my current bike and been happy. But, I wanted a BMW.

My BMW turned 10 yrs. old last month. :msp_thumbsup:

Oh, I forgot to mention. It started right up the first time I ever hit the starter button.

So been around bikes all your life and cant start a chainsaw???

sent from my galaxy tab 2

 

[SawTroll]

This thread stinks.

Far from the worst I have seen, even today. He had a problem, and was helped to solve it.

It may not have been pretty, but it worked!

 

[hiluxxulih]

The next time I think about making a major purchase, I'll check with you first. :rolleyes2:

BTW....I'm really into firearms. You should see my collection. Some I don't even shoot.

Its your money spend it as you wish , I had my Stihl MS362 for two years before I used it , dont let some of these guys get to you .

 

[1Alpha1]

Its your money spend it as you wish , I had my Stihl MS362 for two years before I used it , dont let some of these guys get to you .

It's kind of funny. Lots of guys have numerous saws in their collection, and I'm quite sure that most of them sit idle for months or years at a time.

I ask for advice on buying a quality saw that will last me for many years. I never claimed that it would be used 24/7.

I buy the saw and then get blasted cause I have no plans to use it immediately. It will get used, but on my terms.

 

[hiluxxulih]

It's kind of funny. Lots of guys have numerous saws in their collection, and I'm quite sure that most of them sit idle for months or years at a time.

I ask for advice on buying a quality saw that will last me for many years. I never claimed that it would be used 24/7.

I buy the saw and then get blasted cause I have no plans to use it immediately. It will get used, but on my terms.

Aapparently some of these guys griping leave their saws running all the time even when not cutting , the way some BS they leave them running when they sharpen the chains :msp_rolleyes:

 

[albert]

Not to bust your balls, but was the problem the saw or how you were starting and running it. That said, even a new fuel injected engine, if you start it in cold weather and it only runs a very short time and shut off two or three times in a row can and flood and not start. If you take your saw out and cut some wood with it, ie fully warmed up, it should start normally, as in the manual, without any special tactis next time you have to use it. What you will have to find out on your own is what the saw needs when restarting when not cold, like when you sit it down for 15 minutes or so. I always try restarting wiithout the choke first.

 

[CentaurG2]

Good thing stihl don’t manufacture firearms. A saw should start whenever you need it to, no matter what someone does to it. If it don’t, what the hell good is it?? I had similar problems with an ms361. Look at that saw wrong and it would flood out. Most useless POS ever invented for tree work, ditched it for a dolmar 5100 and never looked back.

Should you need to in the future; you can unflood a saw by setting the switch to run, fully depressing the throttle (tape,zip tie etc) and pulling its guts out. It might take 30 or 40 pulls but the saw will eventually clear and run. As a side note, we have been abusing one of them new husky autotunes since March. So far, unless you leave it sitting in the hot sun for 2 hours, it has never failed to start. When you get sick of dealing with antiquated stihl junk, you might want to give them a passing glance.

 

[albert]

Good thing stihl don’t manufacture firearms. A saw should start whenever you need it to, no matter what someone does to it. If it don’t, what the hell good is it?? I had similar problems with an ms361. Look at that saw wrong and it would flood out. Most useless POS ever invented for tree work, ditched it for a dolmar 5100 and never looked back.

Should you need to in the future; you can unflood a saw by setting the switch to run, fully depressing the throttle (tape,zip tie etc) and pulling its guts out. It might take 30 or 40 pulls but the saw will eventually clear and run. As a side note, we have been abusing one of them new husky autotunes since March. So far, unless you leave it sitting in the hot sun for 2 hours, it has never failed to start. When you get sick of dealing with antiquated stihl junk, you might want to give them a passing glance.

Well Cent, a saw should start no matter what anyone does to it? That would be a first, no matter what brand. I can think of dozens of things that someone could do to any saw that would cause a no start, sitting in the sun wasn't one of them.

 

[KenJax Tree]

Sounds more like the procedure you're using is flooding it. All my saw from 200t up to 390xp: 3-4 pulls on full choke,2-3 pulls on half choke, (even if it don't pop) 1 pull no choke and its running.

 

[1Alpha1]

Well, I do know that even the dealer had trouble getting it fired up. After a few minutes, he got it going, obviously.

Once I got the hang of what it was doing, I was able to adjust my actions and get it started. And yes, it was flooding out, and quite sure it was my fault.

Thing is, I've never had similar issues with other two-stroke equipment I've owned.

Before I put it to use, I want to make sure that it's gonna start. I can't imagine trying to cut wood with it not running.

BTW.....That 046 that I had, was easy to start. I have no idea how long it had been sitting idle.

 

[CentaurG2]

Well Cent, a saw should start no matter what anyone does to it? That would be a first, no matter what brand. I can think of dozens of things that someone could do to any saw that would cause a no start, sitting in the sun was one of them.

Two strokes aint that complex. It should fire if it has compression, fuel, spark and air. You rely on your tools to make you money. They don’t work, well then neither do you. It is as simple as that. If it floods out cuz you gave it one too many pulls on choke or you failed to do the hokey-pokey dance before you prayed to the stihl gods, what good it is??

FYI, the 562xp that got the sun treatment, did fire and run but its starting was not up to par. In its defense, the 372xp left next to it was totally flooded and needed to be started with a fully depressed trigger.

 

[hiluxxulih]

Well Cent, a saw should start no matter what anyone does to it? That would be a first, no matter what brand. I can think of dozens of things that someone could do to any saw that would cause a no start, sitting in the sun was one of them.

How do you start a saw that has been sitting in the Sun ? my Stihl MS250 and the MS362 always give me trouble when they sit in the Sun for a while .

 

[albert]

How do you start a saw that has been sitting in the Sun ? my Stihl MS250 and the MS362 always give me trouble when they sit in the Sun for a while .

I messed up, mnt to say wasn't one of them.