Marks just a bit more experienced than to make that mistake.
Oh boy, this ain't good, MS441
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Marks just a bit more experienced than to make that mistake.
I think LowVolt said he had an OEM cylinder for sale. If not, here's one, Stihl MS441 Cylinder Head Jug Piston Rings 50mm MS 441 1138 | eBay.
procarbine2k1
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I saw a 441 the other day at a friends shop that lost one of the ring pins and chewed up the piston and cylinder. He said that he had never seen one do that, but after a phone call to another reputable tech... it has happened more than once. I didnt read all the way through, and realize that probably wasnt an issue, just thought it was worth mentioning.
I don't know how long I can keep this up!
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Nice job jumping to conclusions. Having seen Mark's many posts, I'm sure he would have mentioned that. But hey, you've been here all of 4 months, what do I know.
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Anthony_Va.
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I doubt the piston was backward. Mark knows his sheit.
He said the ring grabbed the port. I figure the beveling in that AM jug was crappy.
I'd check out that OEM kit on Ebay. I seen it on there the other day
He said the ring grabbed the port. I figure the beveling in that AM jug was crappy.
I'd check out that OEM kit on Ebay. I seen it on there the other day
I didnt admit it, you must have dreamed that up. It just hooked a ring.
Well, Brad, its not my saw and its not coming from my wallet. The owner made the choice and looking at what happend to his 460, I can see his side of it. Spend $300 for a P/C and end up with a saw like that in a week maybe? Like you have been told before these are tools to most people.
Personally, buying used parts from ebay is just as risky as buying AM if you have my luck.
You dont have to bite your tounge either, I know what your thinking, and you noticed I stayed out of that other mess you got yourself into because I am not commited either way, I know the risks involved, I also know the stupid money Stihl wants for new parts for this thing. Pick your poison.
To me its just my luck of the draw and the next one will be fine. If there is one bad part of anything in a batch of 1000, it will be the one that I get. At least it seems that way to me way too often. You ought to hear some of the doosies I have had to endure.
The upside is now I have enough time working on a 441 I had that jug back off in just minutes.
For those that didn't realize it, the bottom ring end locating ring is just to the side of the exhaust port. It could be that the pin wasn't located correctly. Also, the intake skirt isn't near that wide on the 441.
Mark, do yourself a favor and just get a refund. Either buy that used OEM topend I linked or contact LowVolt for the one I think he has.
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I'm sure everybody else sees what I see. Right next to the "caught" ring is the ring end locator pin. Compare that to the gouge in the cylinder and the locator pin is in the exhaust port. My reply wasn't aimed to hurt feelings, I just didn't consider the possibility of the ring end gap being intentionally put in the exhaust port by the piston manufacturer. The engine builder should be off the hook, right?
Your persistent and determined, I'll give you that.
Some people might say to the point of being annoying.
procarbine2k1
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It wouldnt be the first time that it happened in error by the manufacturer.
im sure northwood saw will make this good they have great cs...
I'm sure they will promptly replace it, as will Baileys. They are fantastic in those regards. The problem is that CS is not a replacement for QC. Fix the product.
I checked that out, that pin is in the correct place compared to the original.
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That Ebay cylinder does look like a good deal. I'm with mark though, it's about as risky buying a used cylinder as it is to buy an AM cylinder. If it turns out bad, you have to go through all that Ebay crap to get a refund. All the while, the customer is without his saw.
If it did turn out good, it would be a great deal. It's risky though IMO.
If it did turn out good, it would be a great deal. It's risky though IMO.
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If you look closely at those ebay pictures, you can see that P/C is very far from fresh and looks to have been pleanty warm lots of time. Maybe that seller is telling the truth about the comp readings and maybe not as well.
I think any decent AM P/C will have the life left in it that that used set has.
Mark, I'd like to see you reinstall the piston, bolt the cylinder down, and mark the edge of the exhaust port across the ring grooves. Also, how was the shape of the exhaust floor?
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Is the pin on the bottom ring placed there due to the saw being a strato?
