Tree picking from sides of roads

[FLHX Storm]

Expensive.

Yep!

I'll have racked another round after the warning shot and order whoever to drop their firearm. If they don't and want to risk taking a shot it's up to them. But I fully expect them to drop it. Then I will retrieve the firearm and we will walk to my neighbors place a quarter of a mile away on another side road who just so happens to be a LEO.

If per chance the individual is stupid enough to pull the trigger ........... well, lets not go there!

 

[Jed1124]

All of our town trees that are taken down are purposefully left over a weekend so anybody who wants the wood can come and pick it up. Our town dump is loaded with wood. So much so that they are running out of space and are thinking of advertising in the local paper for folks to come down and cut it up. Most of it is huge so you have to have a monster saw with a big bar as all of the small to medium stuff has already been picked through. You have to sign a release before cutting at the dump basically saying if you cut your leg off while cutting at the dump you can't sue. I guess we have a pretty good system here compared to what I am seeing from a lot of you other guys. Dead trees laying on the ground on state (citizen owned) land is a disgrace when heating oil is $4 bucks a gallon. I would have one cold house if I did not heat with wood. Friend of mine is up to $3500 already for the season in heating oil and still has a couple of months of heating to go. Politicians and lawyers are ruining this country.

 

[Stlshrk]

Yep!

I'll have racked another round after the warning shot and order whoever to drop their firearm. If they don't and want to risk taking a shot it's up to them. But I fully expect them to drop it. Then I will retrieve the firearm and we will walk to my neighbors place a quarter of a mile away on another side road who just so happens to be a LEO.

If per chance the individual is stupid enough to pull the trigger ........... well, lets not go there!

May want to save that warning shot, there is a shortage of ammo.

 

[FLHX Storm]

May want to save that warning shot, there is a shortage of ammo.

Well damn, then it wouldn't be any fun at all! :msp_sad: :msp_crying:

 

[zogger]

All of our town trees that are taken down are purposefully left over a weekend so anybody who wants the wood can come and pick it up. Our town dump is loaded with wood. So much so that they are running out of space and are thinking of advertising in the local paper for folks to come down and cut it up. Most of it is huge so you have to have a monster saw with a big bar as all of the small to medium stuff has already been picked through. You have to sign a release before cutting at the dump basically saying if you cut your leg off while cutting at the dump you can't sue. I guess we have a pretty good system here compared to what I am seeing from a lot of you other guys. Dead trees laying on the ground on state (citizen owned) land is a disgrace when heating oil is $4 bucks a gallon. I would have one cold house if I did not heat with wood. Friend of mine is up to $3500 already for the season in heating oil and still has a couple of months of heating to go. Politicians and lawyers are ruining this country.

That sounds great! A guy could make a nice little side job industry with some big saws and a dump truck. If the town dump guy would load it for him especially.

We dont have near the alleged energy supply problems in this country, we have a conservation and waste problem. IMO of course. Stuff like this wood, and like, ever see those satellite pictures of them flaring nat gas up in baaaken fields. I mean, geez loweez, pure waste, enough for whole cities.

 

[Woody912]

Just kidding on the rock salt.

But something to think about:

I'm a single older lady living alone out in the boonies on one of those back country roads. No one knows your here. Your here pilfering from my property. I have no idea what else you may have on your mind.

I also have a variety of firearms n I'm very proficient in their use. I fire a warning shot to get your attention. You pull a pistol or revolver with the intention of shooting me. What do you think the outcome is going to be?

Disregard Joe Biden and forget the warning shot, they can also get you in hot water. IMHO if it's worth shooting it's worth killing

 

[allstihl]

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[TreePointer]

Leave a genuine paper target outside at all times and shoot the first shot at the target. That way you can tell the responding police officer that you were target shooting (scope zeriong, ammo testing, makeing a fouling shot, etc.) when you noticed the POS trespasser/thief.

(NOTE: I am not a lawyer, LOL!)

 

[spike60]

Lewis Tree was doing some line maintenance in my area. They left plenty of wood like this for residents to pick up. This pile was about a 1/2 mile from my house so....................just couldn't leave it there, could I? :biggrin:

Got most of it with this load. Probably another 1/2 load still there under the snow.

 

[TreePointer]

Asplundh has been going all around my township for the last month, but they only pruned some twigs so far. :frown:

 

[autoimage]

+1 woody a warning shot is just an excuse for someone to shoot you. im not in the boonies though this is a high stress area i cant pull my gun unless i 100% have to

 

[Dusty Rhodes]

In PA. if you get caught cutting another persons trees it treble damages. In other words, three times the value of the timber plus court costs. Thats very expensive firewood in my book. Not worth it, get permission. I drive by some absolutely primo standing dead white oak every day. probably hundreds of trees. Dang near kills me to know that stuff is going to fall over eventually or rot. I've asked the water authority who owns the land, if I could go in and harvest some of those dead trees by hand, no equipment so I dont tear nothing up. There answer is no. Even stated that I'd sign a liability waiver in case I got hurt. There answer is still no. If they let me go in, they would have to let others go in. At least thats what they are saying. So be it. Its their trees and land, not mine. Just the way it is. I have asked many landowners over the years about cutting dead trees on their property as well, some say yes and others say no. You have to abide by the landowners wishes, to do otherwise is theft. Plain and simple.

 

[Woody912]

+1 woody a warning shot is just an excuse for someone to shoot you. im not in the boonies though this is a high stress area i cant pull my gun unless i 100% have to

Friend of mine shot a guy after 3 warning shots ( in the ground) in this case it may have saved him because they dug the slugs up to verify his story but I would say this is a one time occurence. A police officer firing a warning shot these days will probably be terminated. Sheriff friend also told me never to point a gun if I have to confront someone until I'm ready to pull the trigger

 

[rmihalek]

I drive by some absolutely primo standing dead white oak every day. probably hundreds of trees. Dang near kills me to know that stuff is going to fall over eventually or rot. I've asked the water authority who owns the land, if I could go in and harvest some of those dead trees by hand, no equipment so I dont tear nothing up. There answer is no. Even stated that I'd sign a liability waiver in case I got hurt. There answer is still no. If they let me go in, they would have to let others go in.

There's a slightly swampy area in my town filled with standing dead oak and I went through this same question-and-answer session with the town admin. When the gal said "if we let you in there we'd have to let everyone in there." I said, "no you wouldn't...I asked first!" She didn't have much of an answer to that, but she still ended up saying "no."

 

[steved]

Most state forest districts here in PA require a permit to cut fuel wood...costs $15/cord. I believe with that permit you can cut marked trees from the fuel wood cutting area and anything on the ground elsewhere in the tract. I haul out of one of them.

As for cutting timber trees on private land in PA and getting caught...yup, its VERY expensive. A guy cut a (timber) tree just over the property line on the adjacent tract to my grandfather's place. It was definitely not a line tree, and it was definitely across the property line...the guy even tried to move the property line corner marker to get away with it. Unfortunately for him, the land owner was a forester/logger (actual business owner) and took him to task over it...that one single 16 inch cherry cost that guy nearly $20k by the time it was settled and all the court costs were paid.

I won't cut/gather wood anywhere I don't have permission. Luckily, my grandfather owns 40+acres of mix hardwood timber trees...I almost feel bad cutting them, even though he marks them for me to cut!

 

[autoimage]

what time do you want me up there this weekend to do some cuttin...steve

 

[steved]

Considering my grandfather's place is up near Erie...you'd have a road trip on your hands.

 

[autoimage]

no prob i have a triaxle....jk

 

[zogger]

In PA. if you get caught cutting another persons trees it treble damages. In other words, three times the value of the timber plus court costs. Thats very expensive firewood in my book. Not worth it, get permission. I drive by some absolutely primo standing dead white oak every day. probably hundreds of trees. Dang near kills me to know that stuff is going to fall over eventually or rot. I've asked the water authority who owns the land, if I could go in and harvest some of those dead trees by hand, no equipment so I dont tear nothing up. There answer is no. Even stated that I'd sign a liability waiver in case I got hurt. There answer is still no. If they let me go in, they would have to let others go in. At least thats what they are saying. So be it. Its their trees and land, not mine. Just the way it is. I have asked many landowners over the years about cutting dead trees on their property as well, some say yes and others say no. You have to abide by the landowners wishes, to do otherwise is theft. Plain and simple.

You could try this. Governments are always scrambling for cash. Go to the next city council meeting and offer to buy the wood, ten a cord for stumpage. Have a generic countract with you, right on the spot. That gets them off any liability hook, they get some cash, you get the wood and access, its all yours. Make it open ended, all of it is yours, you come get it whenever, and pay in advance.

 

[Chris-PA]

A lot of people seem to be confused between rights-of-way, easements and ownership. The township has a right of way along the road, but I own the land under it and pay taxes on it. You wouldn't want to be taking any wood along it......

You can go on Google maps and see the property lines in most places.