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Bster13 said:
Meet with my fireplace dealer (I bought a BK Princess Insert!!!) and he states he thinks it is Hickory. I agree, not Black Locust like what I've seen in my piles before at all. Unless there some variant I am unaware of that looks completely different from Black Locust.
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He is wrong. It's Honey Locust for sure. He may sell stoves for a living but knows nothing about wood if he thinks that's Hickory.
 
That is NOT Black or Hone Locust. No way, no how. It does appear to be Shag Hickory that hasn't quite completely "shagged" as of yet.
 
I'm no Honey Locust expert, so who knows, but that looks exactly like the Hickory I've been burning this winter...my 2 cents...
 
I've gotten into this black locust discussion before, and have been accused of not knowing BL at all. I had two giant BL trees that tower over my house, one of which we had taken down a few years ago and the other is still there. I spent a lot of time splitting that stuff. I will post some pictures if I get a chance. Neither has/had any thorns, and they both shoot up trees from runners like crazy.

I will say that their bark is very different from younger trees that sprout from the runners, and has those rough, flat vertical shingles that look nothing like what you see on younger trees.
 
Black Locust looks nothing like Honey Locust. Black has thick, deeply burrowed bark. And when split has a green/yelow tint wood. Honey Locust has thin smooth bark, and has salmon colored wood when split.
 
I would agree with you on the Black Locust description, though I've never had any Honey Locust so can't comment there.

aaron said:
Black Locust looks nothing like Honey Locust. Black has thick, deeply burrowed bark. And when split has a green/yelow tint wood. Honey Locust has thin smooth bark, and has salmon colored wood when split.
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Couldn't take it, so after work today i took some pictures of Locust and Hickory
There are a couple types of Locust.the Hickory is the one with the saws. I cut a fresh peace of hickory so you could see the color
Pretty sure your pictures match up to the Hickory
The pictures with the saws are the only ones that are Hickory the rest is Locust. Notice how the Hickory has the wide light colored band
Locust never has a lighter band that is that wide.
look at the picture with three Locust billets verses the picture with the saws
The piece that is split is locust.
 
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Looks just like the 100s of Black Locusts I've cut here in Ontario.
Honey locust at least here is a different set of heart and sap wood color.

If your location is somewhat near Ontario Canada then I'm 100% sure it's black locust.
Black locust I'm told starts to look different starting about the middle of the States and south.
 
RiverRocket,

Have another look at the ring width in the original pictures.
Image#3 is a great one to see ring size.
To big to be hickory.
Only locust/Black Honey and softwood puts out rings that big.
 
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Ontario Canada Black Locust
<Img src=http://www.donnan.com/images/woodBlLoc2.jpg>
Easy to confuse it with Northern Red oak from color, bark and rings are very different than oak though.
<img src=http://www.donnan.com/images/woodRedOak2.jpg>
 
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haveawoody said:
RiverRocket,

Have another look at the ring width in the original pictures.
Image#3 is a great one to see ring size.
To big to be hickory.
Only locust/Black Honey and softwood puts out rings that big.
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I'm by no means an expert at tree identification. I've lived on a farm my entire life and i'm a Grandpappy and have cut allot of wood and locust post over the years
I'm not saying your wrong. I've just never seen locust that looked like that, But than again i'm not even sure what black locust looks like compared to honey locust
The bark on the op pictures doesn't look like any bark I've ever seen on locust
I'm hard headed:msp_biggrin: so i'm sticking with Hickory (young Hickory)
I want DNA sample:msp_biggrin:
 
haveawoody said:
Ontario Canada Black Locust
<Img src=http://www.donnan.com/images/woodBlLoc2.jpg>
Easy to confuse it with Northern Red oak from color, bark and rings are very different than oak though.
<img src=http://www.donnan.com/images/woodRedOak2.jpg>
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That's what i'm missing, becuace I've never seen locust like that before.Wonder if it does't exist in PA?
Ether that or i'm just a Dumb arse.
 
RiverRocket,

I had a long conversation about BL here on this site with a southern tree service guy that told me Bl looks nothing like my pictures.
Guess it's a northern thing with BL.
After many pictures of Ontario BL he agreed what I showed was BL, and what he showed me of his BL looked very different than the norm for me.
I guess BL looks very different from the middle states south and the middle states and north.

Makes id all that more fun and yeppers I make my own mistakes trying to id what I'm used to in my area but looks very different in another location.

Those darn adaptive trees always trying to look different sure make it interesting to id. :)
 
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RiverRocket,

I bet in Pa you have the same BL as in my area.
Honey is pretty easy to ID from Bl, almost no sap wood in honey and a big sap wood section in BL.
You just got to go chopping now till you find one :)
 

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