sunfish
Fish Head
Yep! I'll probably never buy a steel stove. But ya know about 'never say never'...
The not-so-difficult to run EPA stove
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sunfish
Fish Head
I don't know much about the other Jotul stoves but the 118 Black Bear is just a simple cast iron box stove with a baffle & smoke chamber above the firebox. It's a 100 year old design that they added secondary burn air tubes to. You can run it with or without secondary burn. The only thing that will need replacing on this stove is the door gasket & possibly the baffle, but that would be many, many years down the road, if at all. It is very easy on wood, but really cranks out the heat!
Steve NW WI
Unwanted Riff Raff.
I call BS.
Looks like one of those nice warm southern state forecasts. Wanna trade?
You picked a town some distance south and east of me Steve NW WI... a good hour drive anyway.
Here, have a look.
Our forecast ain't that far off from yours... on average I'd say we look to run 'round 5° warmer than you for highs, less than that for lows.
'Course that does depend on which weather service you use.
This one here puts us damn near neck 'n' neck with you.
Guess we'll just haf'ta wait 'n' see.
But... at least we'll be seeing some sun over the next week.
That will be a welcome change.
Here, have a look.
Our forecast ain't that far off from yours... on average I'd say we look to run 'round 5° warmer than you for highs, less than that for lows.
'Course that does depend on which weather service you use.
This one here puts us damn near neck 'n' neck with you.
Guess we'll just haf'ta wait 'n' see.
But... at least we'll be seeing some sun over the next week.
That will be a welcome change.
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Steve NW WI
Unwanted Riff Raff.
Ehh, Iowa's Iowa.
I just about went with Charles City, due to it being the former home of the good green tractors, but went with the "big city" instead.
I'll say one thing, 26° is still cold when your hands are soaked in diesel fuel after getting a batch of "bottom of the barrel" fuel cause I was too lazy to go to the coop and get good fuel. The old IH adage of "Buy clean fuel, keep it clean" applies here, and I got no one to blame but me. The local don't sell enough diesel to have trustworthy fuel.
The ugliest filters I've took off in a long time:
Now I gotta go back out and bleed the injector lines. Friday fun!
I just about went with Charles City, due to it being the former home of the good green tractors, but went with the "big city" instead.
I'll say one thing, 26° is still cold when your hands are soaked in diesel fuel after getting a batch of "bottom of the barrel" fuel cause I was too lazy to go to the coop and get good fuel. The old IH adage of "Buy clean fuel, keep it clean" applies here, and I got no one to blame but me. The local don't sell enough diesel to have trustworthy fuel.
The ugliest filters I've took off in a long time:
Now I gotta go back out and bleed the injector lines. Friday fun!
Oh man... that sucks sour owl $h!t Steve NW WI, miserable stuff that diesel in cold weather.
I accidentally drenched myself with calcium chloride solution in 30° weather once... by the time I got that tire filled I didn't think my teeth would ever stop chatterin'‼
That was one of the only times I remember falling asleep while sitting right next to the stove... and waking up still cold‼
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I accidentally drenched myself with calcium chloride solution in 30° weather once... by the time I got that tire filled I didn't think my teeth would ever stop chatterin'‼
That was one of the only times I remember falling asleep while sitting right next to the stove... and waking up still cold‼
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Chris-PA
Where the Wild Things Are
So the old one didn't heat either?
Smart Azz ‼
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zogger
Tree Freak
Been thinking about this a lot..what is needed is a firebox on a pivot.
OK, you have gotten down to big coals, but you want to add more wood to get the heat back up, but you know that isn't going to work. If you shovel them out, PITA and a waste of some good wood.
With a pivoting rotating firebox, like an all around multi grate, you add wood to the top of the coals, and rotate that sucker 180. Now the hot coals are on top, they burn better, then ignite the new wood in a little while. Every time you rotate it, the ashes and baby negligible coals fall all the way through to the ash pan.
OK, you have gotten down to big coals, but you want to add more wood to get the heat back up, but you know that isn't going to work. If you shovel them out, PITA and a waste of some good wood.
With a pivoting rotating firebox, like an all around multi grate, you add wood to the top of the coals, and rotate that sucker 180. Now the hot coals are on top, they burn better, then ignite the new wood in a little while. Every time you rotate it, the ashes and baby negligible coals fall all the way through to the ash pan.
Hey... I found some pictures of the "old" furnace... the one that the converted PE ("stovace") replaced.
This is what it looked like the day it came out and the PE "stovace" went in... she'd seen better days, but managed to keep the house warm right up until the box cracked.
And here's the "stovace" up and runnin'...
And this is what that PE looked like when I brought it home...
And some build pictures...
zogger
Tree Freak
FWIW...back in the day, I had a variety of woods hippie friends, most of them used wood heat for a primary, some with heaters, some with furnaces.
Just the heaters...not counting cookstoves or furnaces...
Ok, the hierarchy went like this, bottom to top, po' schmoos like me used used box stoves, old used pot bellies, what you could scrounge up free or a few bucks.
Next up midrange bucks folks were stoves like ashleys, or soapstone/nickle trim, etc nice antiques
Top of the income bracket, jotuls, hands down.
Bushmans
Smoke Dragon Herder
....and so ends my thought of ever owning a Jotul!
sunfish
Fish Head
Jotul is priced like most other cast stoves, but ya get what ya pay for.
brenndatomu
Hey you woodchucks, quit chucking my wood!
Hey Spidey, just wonderin, when the PE was in "stovace" mode did you take the factory heat shields off it?
Bushmans
Smoke Dragon Herder
Vermonster,
You don't see much real stone work like that anymore. Everything is cultured now. Looks so fake. I like it! Well done!
You don't see much real stone work like that anymore. Everything is cultured now. Looks so fake. I like it! Well done!
Vermonster
ArboristSite Operative
Thanks Bushmans. All those field stones came from our homestead property.
I actually meant to post this to the thread "Is you stove keeping up?", but had a senior moment and it ended up on this thread.
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