Dump trailer addition

[Locust Cutter]

My next trailer will be a 14k bumper-pull equipment hauler. I want a dump (like the ones pictured) BUT being 14-16K rated with single tires, I get a lot less (legal) capacity/useful load on those than I do the eq trailer. Ditto the bumper pull-vs-the GN version. GN's haul more, pull better and distribute the load MUCH better, but have the same max gvwr (while weighing more due to the addt'l steel in the neck). If/when I buy GN trailers they will be dual tandems and then I will have to get a CDL due to them easily putting me over 26K (when loaded with hay/fire wood). Hell awhile back I pulled 17 big rounds on a friends 25' dual tandem GN flat deck... With both tanks full and my wife and I in there, we rolled over the scales at 29,600# IIRC...

 

[Knobby57]

This is a 10k pintle . Had a 3300 pound dump trailer and 4 tons of coal in the trailer ( 10k trailer) a "friend" borrowed my trailer . He HAD a 2004 f250 regular cab with a 5.4l . The trailer pushed him in a corner . Trailer and truck was a total loss. And the retaining wall he hit was about 90% destroyed . And somehow nobody got hurt thank god. Insurance covered the truck and wall but not the trailer . My "friend" lost his driving privileges for 1 year and and from what his dad told me got 8500$ in fines . His dad being the great guy he is had a nice shiny new trailer in my driveway the next weekend . I had no idea all this happened till his dad showed up at my house with the shattered pintle and new trailer


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[angelo c]

wow...is all i can say....

 

[isaaccarlson]

Sterling is ford, not dodge.

 

[isaaccarlson]

I never liked pintles. They had them at work and they were horrible. Too much slop and rode like crud. One of the guys almost lost the truck, dump trauler, and tractor right in front of me one day. The trailer caught a cross wind and the pintle started wiggling. He was crossing both lines of his lane and it finally straightened out on its own. Thought for sure he was gonna be dead right there in front of me.

 

[Locust Cutter]

Sterling is ford, not dodge.

Are you telling me that this is a Ford???

This is only one example. http://www.sterlingtrucks.com/_Assets/Pdfs/BulletBrochure.pdf I don't think they're offered anymore but they were for awhile...

 

[OH_Varmntr]

We have a few pintles around work. They never leave the mill though. I don't like them other than they are easiest to hook/unhook.

 

[angelo c]

Ok while its still somewhat on topic...are you guys suggesting a bumper pull "ball" is safer then a pintle ?
I can see where a GN is safer then a bumper but im not understanding the hate for pintles.

 

[OH_Varmntr]

I won't classify it as safer, because I've seen ball studs snap off and leave a trailer behind as well. I personally don't like bumper pull trailers at all, but if I had to chose one it would be ball style as there is much less play in the hitch setup.

 

[angelo c]

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[Locust Cutter]

For pulling around a ranch (greater articulation and having a trailer that NOBODY wants to borrow due to a lack of a pulling hitch) pintles are great. Otherwise +1 to OH_Varminter as the ball hitches pull much more smoothly with a lot less slop. They're generally stronger, but they're not worth it IMHO...

 

[OH_Varmntr]

For pulling around a ranch (greater articulation and having a trailer that NOBODY wants to borrow due to a lack of a pulling hitch) pintles are great. Otherwise +1 to OH_Varminter as the ball hitches pull much more smoothly with a lot less slop. They're generally stronger, but they're not worth it IMHO...

Yet another reason why I like gn hitches. Nobody who wants to borrow my trailer has a gn setup in their trucks, let alone a large enough truck to haul a gn trailer. So then the conversation turns to borrowing my truck AND trailer, to which I just laugh. Which is another reason I bought a manual truck.

Most of the time I end up hauling for them, which is fine by me.

 

[Locust Cutter]

Yet another reason why I like gn hitches. Nobody who wants to borrow my trailer has a gn setup in their trucks, let alone a large enough truck to haul a gn trailer. So then the conversation turns to borrowing my truck AND trailer, to which I just laugh. Which is another reason I bought a manual truck.

Most of the time I end up hauling for them, which is fine by me.

I think we'd get along fine...

 

[angelo c]

Most of the time i just load up the dump truck and the trailer just sits

... I got a little cabover Isuzu POS dump truck that works like a loaner ms 290. Or a chubby redhead , or a moped...nobody wants one until they need it and then they can't seem to bring em back.

 

[OH_Varmntr]

Haha at the chubby redhead remark!

I had to borrow a gn plate to get the trailer, and now I'm waiting for the one I ordered to get here. Plus this week at work will be hectic, so next week it's on!

Plus I'll be building a slide-on grapple for my forks to help loading logs. Don't plan on dropping them into the bed as I don't want to bugger it up.

 

[Locust Cutter]

Forks? Are you talking about a F/L or some part of the dump trailer? Now you have me interested... I do love how many people have asked to borrow my truck then they fond out it's a dually (Oh it's SO hard to park) and then that its a stick (I don't know how to drive a stick). It saves me from having to say I wouldn't loan you my truck anyway... I may not have the most or best equipment, but I've worked hard and paid dearly for it and can't stand to see it be mistreated...

 

[OH_Varmntr]

Sorry, I was referring to my forks for my loader. Just a single clamping finger (like a backhoe thumb) that slides onto a set of forks, or I might build one that attaches to the fork frames.

Like this one...

I hear ya. I read somewhere where a guy would ask whoever was wanting to borrow his equipment..."I have x-amount of dollars invested in this. Do you have enough to fix/replace whatever you may break?"

That's why I bought my own machine. I borrowed my neighbors Bobcat enough that I was afraid something was going to happen while I was using it. The fuel pickup tube broke off in the tank one day and he asked me to help him fix it. I fixed it for him just because he let me use it whenever I needed it.

 

[isaaccarlson]

Well, Sterling USED to be Ford........Guess I have been out of the loop for a while. I love my Ford Sterling!

 

[OH_Varmntr]

The Sterling kits look nice on the Dodge trucks I've seen them on. Some are too overdone though.

 

[CRThomas]

My next trailer will be a 14k bumper-pull equipment hauler. I want a dump (like the ones pictured) BUT being 14-16K rated with single tires, I get a lot less (legal) capacity/useful load on those than I do the eq trailer. Ditto the bumper pull-vs-the GN version. GN's haul more, pull better and distribute the load MUCH better, but have the same max gvwr (while weighing more due to the addt'l steel in the neck). If/when I buy GN trailers they will be dual tandems and then I will have to get a CDL due to them easily putting me over 26K (when loaded with hay/fire wood). Hell awhile back I pulled 17 big rounds on a friends 25' dual tandem GN flat deck... With both tanks full and my wife and I in there, we rolled over the scales at 29,600# IIRC...

I only use bumper pull trailers do to Illinois DOT they hell on Goose necks if I am going to haul a long way I hook up the camper trailer bars I can haul more and have better control. My friend went to a heaveyer trailer he said he could haul more wieght but to load limit legaly he still could only haul one more ton so he when and sold his texas goose neck and back to his bumper hitch pull but different strokes for different folks