Are you kidding me ??? Definately what NOT to do !!

[pantelis]

I don't know, sometimes it makes my head hurt. Ron

just use it for spending your time

 

[Knobby57]

I'm thinking that this weirdo is just getting videos out there as an audition to get on ax men with the other idiots ,that.almost kill them selves to cut down a tree that is split all the way to the top because it's a 3000$ log ???? That show is filled with unsafe idiots and this feller will fit rite in. I just hope to god someone doesn't watch his videos and think this is how to do it and get hurt . YouTube is filled with lots of howto videos that are just wrong and this is one of them


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[pantelis]

I'm thinking that this weirdo is just getting videos out there as an audition to get on ax men with the other idiots ,that.almost kill them selves to cut down a tree that is split all the way to the top because it's a 3000$ log ???? That show is filled with unsafe idiots and this feller will fit rite in. I just hope to god someone doesn't watch his videos and think this is how to do it and get hurt . YouTube is filled with lots of howto videos that are just wrong and this is one of them


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Depent on you what to keep and what to put on the garbage the youtube is just a tool

 

[lone wolf]

I'm thinking that this weirdo is just getting videos out there as an audition to get on ax men with the other idiots ,that.almost kill them selves to cut down a tree that is split all the way to the top because it's a 3000$ log ???? That show is filled with unsafe idiots and this feller will fit rite in. I just hope to god someone doesn't watch his videos and think this is how to do it and get hurt . YouTube is filled with lots of howto videos that are just wrong and this is one of them


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Why hell he could be the crew leader!

 

[Moparmyway]

Unless, of course, we end up paying welfare for him and his dependents if he is crippled or killed - the saw mill ain't gonna do that because he is an 'independent contractor'.
Unless, of course, the rest of us end up being subject to additional regulations or restrictions because of guys like him.
Unless, of course, he doesn't know what he is doing, but posts videos for others to see and cut like him; exposing/encouraging others.
Unless, of course, this is a forum for folks who are interested to discuss techniques, etc.

He had no control of that tree. Just because he has done it before, and video taped it, does not mean that he is a professional.

Philbert

 

[redoakneck]

The chain grab with the saw running and the sharpening instructions sealed the deal for me. I don't know much about his felling techniques, but if they are on par with the chain grab and lame angle sharpening, he is on borrowed time.

I hope he doesn't hurt himself or anyone else, but looks like a formula one driver on ice!!!!!

 

[pantelis]

The chain grab with the saw running and the sharpening instructions sealed the deal for me. I don't know much about his felling techniques, but if they are on par with the chain grab and lame angle sharpening, he is on borrowed time.

I hope he doesn't hurt himself or anyone else, but looks like a formula one driver on ice!!!!!

you know why someone is a formula 1 driver ?

 

[Full Chisel]

The chain grab with the saw running and the sharpening instructions sealed the deal for me. I don't know much about his felling techniques, but if they are on par with the chain grab and lame angle sharpening, he is on borrowed time.

I hope he doesn't hurt himself or anyone else, but looks like a formula one driver on ice!!!!!

I don't care if he's the best damn faller in the world, the guy is clearly an idiot.

 

[pantelis]

Agree

 

[jughead500]

Had a good friend who runs a logging crew loose his foot up to his heel because someone who worked for him cut a tree like that.he got completely around the tree sawing and the tree set back on the saw.my buddy couldnt tell if it was completely cut or had some holding in the center they hooked the cable on the skidder to it and just as soon as the guy who cut the tree in the first place tightened up on the cable it jumped off of the stump mashing my buddys foot into the ground and slid him back at least 10 feet digging a trench with his foot or what was left of it.he made it out ok but still goes through a lot of pain to this day
Jmho but cuting like that is like playing russian roulette.

 

[pantelis]

Had a good friend who runs a logging crew loose his foot up to his heel because someone who worked for him cut a tree like that.he got completely around the tree sawing and the tree set back on the saw.my buddy couldnt tell if it was completely cut or had some holding in the center they hooked the cable on the skidder to it and just as soon as the guy who cut the tree in the first place tightened up on the cable it jumped off of the stump mashing my buddys foot into the ground and slid him back at least 10 feet digging a trench with his foot or what was left of it.he made it out ok but still goes through a lot of pain to this day
Jmho but cuting like that is like playing russian roulette.

sorry about your friend but tree loging is the second most dangerous job in the world ( statistics say this )

 

[Knobby57]

Just more proof that Charles Darwin was wrong


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[Gologit]

Just more proof that Charles Darwin was wrong


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Nah, Darwin was right. He's just really really busy. He'll get around to everybody who deserves it. Eventually.

 

[CapitaineHaddoc]

In the woods there is no law of averages. Simply put, people don't survive logging by being stupid or not knowing what they're doing. That being said even smart logger is at risk. People who don't understand why he's cutting like this judging him is pretty silly. Like the way he does it or not you're not the saw mill writing his check. People reaming a guy who knows what he's doing rather than pointing out some of the hideous stumps that are posted in this forum. Makes a lot of sense.

The guy may be confident, that's one thing. But he post his video on internet, and this could be a very bad exemple for someone who want to try this.

Just imagine a guy who want to put down a tree and who watch a few falling vids. The guy could think it's difficult to make all theses face cuts, plunge cuts, etc. And then, he watch this video, with a "pro" who's just turning around the tree with his saw. The tree fall correctly in this video, and it looks so easy to do... he give this way a try. And he kill himself. End of story.

It's not about making publicity to my YT channel, but if I post a video on YT, I don't want to show something dangerous or stupid.

 

[RandyMac]

I miss sport falling.

 

[2dogs]

I have NEVER done any sport falling!

 

[weedkilla]

I fall down, I've never considered it a sport.

 

[bitzer]

In that first video he is just slickin that one off the stump. That means no face cuts. He could have accomplished the same results with a humboldt, snipe, and heart gut. There is an entire set of the hardwood logging community that cuts like this guy. Does that make it right? No. They just don't know any better. Thats how dad and granddad did it ya see. That tree was a red oak by the way. In my mind he makes a lot of wasted movements which ends up in wasted time. Hes not smooth. He just hasn't learned how to fall timber. I do think its funny how several members thought it was ok at first then start back peddling as soon as the pros show up.

 

[cuttinties]

Unless, of course, we end up paying welfare for him and his dependents if he is crippled or killed - the saw mill ain't gonna do that because he is an 'independent contractor'.
Unless, of course, the rest of us end up being subject to additional regulations or restrictions because of guys like him.
Unless, of course, he doesn't know what he is doing, but posts videos for others to see and cut like him; exposing/encouraging others.
Unless, of course, this is a forum for folks who are interested to discuss techniques, etc.

He had no control of that tree. Just because he has done it before, and video taped it, does not mean that he is a professional.

Philbert

You pay welfare for less motivated, physically capable and system junkies every day. And his insurance that he does or doesn't have will take care of it if it needs to. But that's not our concern and has squat to do with the cut he made. I would be willing to bet that you're not a logger and don't understand why he cut the way he did. And probably couldn't list any current restrictions for loggers. Do you know anything about cutting veneer or logging in general other than what you've read or been told?

As I said before you don't survive in logging by being stupid. And if you think you know more about veneer logging please grab your saw and employ yourself with your local veneer crew, train them to do it however you deem fit. After all 1000's of logs are harvested every day by guy's like in this video. Just because you don't agree with something doesn't mean that it's incorrect.

You don't see control of the stump, but once again this "amateur" isn't anywhere close to the stump. That would lead me to assume that he knew about the direction of the fall. Anyone who has logged knows that a tree will go where it wants to. All we do is manipulate how it gets there. And he said multiple times don't do this at home.

But please enlighten us with your cutting do's and donts. The way you talk you should have no problems educating the forum rather than degrading a very old and pretty successful technique. Open face, Humboldt and my personal favorite The Swinging Dutchman are pretty common. So I suspect that by the way you are talking you could execute these with control and precision? Where's your youtube video demonstrating this and educating the masses?

 

[cuttinties]

Now I'm not saying that I agree with or use this method. But I don't agree with people pounding this video and ignoring site members cutting habits. I saw one of the worst stumps I've ever seen on this very forum and people commented on how nice a job he did or how nice his saws were. I've seen trees break off cleaner than that stump. Gologit I agree he should look up more. The only thing is widow makers falling from 70ft oaks tend to get to you faster than you can move. Doesn't matter he should be watching the top.