Nik's Poulan Thread

[Modifiedmark]

I stand corrected.
I know my 655 was made in Canada, as were the couple of other smaller PP saws I've seen based on pioneer saws.
Wasn't pioneer/partner bought out by elux as well?
I've seen some later model plastic poulan saws called partners.

Pioneer and Partner were bought by Elux while they were still separate companies.

 

[Modifiedmark]

I'm going by memory here and could easily have this at least partially incorrect:

--Jenn Feng owned (owns??) the European rights to the McCulloch and Partner names.
--In Europe they sold some Made In China models under the McCulloch and Partner names. There are some threads here at AS discussing this, with some links to the chainsaws.
--I think the we're now seeing some of those models offered in the US under the Remington brand name. If someone wanted to put in the effort they might be able to find images showing many similarities between the McCulloch, Partner, & Remington saws.

A sort-of related note:

--Craftsman is now offering saws with a label that mentions Husqvarna by name. Going by what I've seen on-line---I've checked in person, but didn't find the actual models in stock at a couple of local Sears stores---they look a lot like the McCulloch, Partner, & Remington designs. I think?? that Sears uses the 358 prefix, which should (used to only?) indicate Poulan made products. But I don't know. I'm going to check for a listing & will post a link or two later if I find them.

You need to leave Partner out of that equation they were bought out by Elux, then came under Husqvarna, nothing to do with Taiwan ever.

Technically Jenn Feng was from Taiwan not China.

 

[Chris J.]

Sorry your confused but I thought I just said that in the quote you quoted..

The confusion was mine. My brain needed to see a "repeat."

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Back to the Craftsman made by Husqvarna? Poulan? models. They're sold as the Craftsman Pro Series.

This completed/sold eBay listing clearly shows the Husqvarna plate (and I'm sure that I saw one showing Husqvarna on one of the paper labels):

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Craftsman-P...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557


From the Craftsman website, which shows the 358. model number prefix (which might make sense given that Poulan is part of Husqvarna, but it does blur the line if the Craftsman Pro Series saws are indeed made by Husqvarna):

http://www.craftsman.com/grid/p-07138180000P?adCell=apiGrid_2_07138180000P


And a link to the Craftsman Pro Series all models:

http://www.craftsman.com/dap/Pro-Series-Chainsaws.html

 

[Brandon Koch]

Hey all, new member here.

I haven't had much time in building saws, as I have always had the pleasure of using my dad's when I needed it; and since I move out and was on my own, I spent a lot of time in the panhandle of Texas where "trees" can be cut with hand shears. Now in my PhD at Clemson, I have a new found respect for the need of a chainsaw, and thankfully, my father-in-law spotted a Poulan 3750 in the trash, and we were able to get it running with barely any tinkering at all. Not sure why the guy got rid of it, especially after reading the relatively good reviews of them on here.

I'm running into a problem though of "new in the saw world" type. I need a clutch cover. and I need a bar/chain that fits it. We tried my father-in-law's little 16" Poulan Pro bar and chain to no luck. I also bought an Oregon 18" bar and chain set, again, to no luck. It looks to me like the back end of the bar is too long to allow the bar to recess far enough into the clutch mechanism to allow the chain to align onto the bar before tightening. Furthermore, while my Pat's Poulan Pro brake/clutch cover seemed to fit decently on to the 3750, the new one I purchased didn't come close to being the right size. Clearly, there's some issues here.

I should note as well that I have searched for hours on every parts catalog I could find for these parts that I need to no avail: they're all no longer manufactured and thus sold out. After several hours, I did find a dealer that allowed me to add the items to the cart and pay for them, but 3 days later I got an email saying that my order had been refunded, clearly they forgot to update their website.

And just so y'all can see what I'm working with, the things I thought pertinent while doing my research are included on pictures in case I'm not putting 2 and 2 together correctly.

So, does anyone know anything about these saws in the building sector to throw me a bone on where to find these parts, or if I'm just very inexperienced and missing something?

Thanks in advance all. (just let me know if this is the wrong place for this, but I figured I might get the most help on this sticky instead of adding another thread the chainsaw forum)

 

[Chris J.]

You need to leave Partner out of that equation they were bought out by Elux, then came under Husqvarna, nothing to do with Taiwan ever.

Technically Jenn Feng was from Taiwan not China.

There are some threads here at AS discussing the new (at the time) Partner chainsaws being sold in Europe. I don't know if they had/have any connection to Jenn Feng, but I think that it is certainly possible that JF resurrected/reintroduced the Partner name for marketing purposes.

 

[Modifiedmark]

There are some threads here at AS discussing the new (at the time) Partner chainsaws being sold in Europe. I don't know if they had/have any connection to Jenn Feng, but I think that it is certainly possible that JF resurrected/reintroduced the Partner name for marketing purposes.

If you don't know if Partner had any connection to Jenn Feng, why do you keep suggesting that they did?

Of course Partners were sold in Europe, they were a company from Sweden.

Your homework for today is to find some proof Elux/Husqvarna sold the Partner name..

But I'm done with it here in the Poulan thread..

 

[OhioGregg]

Hey all, new member here.

I haven't had much time in building saws, as I have always had the pleasure of using my dad's when I needed it; and since I move out and was on my own, I spent a lot of time in the panhandle of Texas where "trees" can be cut with hand shears. Now in my PhD at Clemson, I have a new found respect for the need of a chainsaw, and thankfully, my father-in-law spotted a Poulan 3750 in the trash, and we were able to get it running with barely any tinkering at all. Not sure why the guy got rid of it, especially after reading the relatively good reviews of them on here.

I'm running into a problem though of "new in the saw world" type. I need a clutch cover. and I need a bar/chain that fits it. We tried my father-in-law's little 16" Poulan Pro bar and chain to no luck. I also bought an Oregon 18" bar and chain set, again, to no luck. It looks to me like the back end of the bar is too long to allow the bar to recess far enough into the clutch mechanism to allow the chain to align onto the bar before tightening. Furthermore, while my Pat's Poulan Pro brake/clutch cover seemed to fit decently on to the 3750, the new one I purchased didn't come close to being the right size. Clearly, there's some issues here.

I should note as well that I have searched for hours on every parts catalog I could find for these parts that I need to no avail: they're all no longer manufactured and thus sold out. After several hours, I did find a dealer that allowed me to add the items to the cart and pay for them, but 3 days later I got an email saying that my order had been refunded, clearly they forgot to update their website.

And just so y'all can see what I'm working with, the things I thought pertinent while doing my research are included on pictures in case I'm not putting 2 and 2 together correctly.

So, does anyone know anything about these saws in the building sector to throw me a bone on where to find these parts, or if I'm just very inexperienced and missing something?

Thanks in advance all. (just let me know if this is the wrong place for this, but I figured I might get the most help on this sticky instead of adding another thread the chainsaw forum)

Welcome to the site.. Your easiest, best bet is gonna be on Ebay. Unfortunately. Other online retailers can get them also. But, for a lot of saws that are no longer made...Ebay is a good place to look. Here is an example.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/POULAN-PRO-...812730?hash=item5b2078d13a:g:7hsAAOSwRLZT4YWt

Gregg,

 

[DrTszap]

I'm going by memory here and could easily have this at least partially incorrect:

--Jenn Feng owned (owns??) the European rights to the McCulloch and Partner names.

Nope, JF owned North American rights to McCulloch (later sold to Husqvarna) The European macs were never taiwan-trash AFAIK.

 

[blk05crew]

Lo


Looks good Nate! I think we got the new spike sets from the same seller. lol Yes, those saws were made in Canada. Poulan even carried the Pioneer legacy along for some time in their Poulan Pro logo, with the Pioneer "Pine tree" inside the P in Pro.

Gregg,

Thanks Gregg, yeah I'm sure we probably got them from the same seller! I think I found a good usable muffler locally to clean up and paint but still on the hunt for chain brake assembly/handle and stock air filter set up.

 

[Modifiedmark]

Hey all, new member here.

I haven't had much time in building saws, as I have always had the pleasure of using my dad's when I needed it; and since I move out and was on my own, I spent a lot of time in the panhandle of Texas where "trees" can be cut with hand shears. Now in my PhD at Clemson, I have a new found respect for the need of a chainsaw, and thankfully, my father-in-law spotted a Poulan 3750 in the trash, and we were able to get it running with barely any tinkering at all. Not sure why the guy got rid of it, especially after reading the relatively good reviews of them on here.

I'm running into a problem though of "new in the saw world" type. I need a clutch cover. and I need a bar/chain that fits it. We tried my father-in-law's little 16" Poulan Pro bar and chain to no luck. I also bought an Oregon 18" bar and chain set, again, to no luck. It looks to me like the back end of the bar is too long to allow the bar to recess far enough into the clutch mechanism to allow the chain to align onto the bar before tightening. Furthermore, while my Pat's Poulan Pro brake/clutch cover seemed to fit decently on to the 3750, the new one I purchased didn't come close to being the right size. Clearly, there's some issues here.

I should note as well that I have searched for hours on every parts catalog I could find for these parts that I need to no avail: they're all no longer manufactured and thus sold out. After several hours, I did find a dealer that allowed me to add the items to the cart and pay for them, but 3 days later I got an email saying that my order had been refunded, clearly they forgot to update their website.

And just so y'all can see what I'm working with, the things I thought pertinent while doing my research are included on pictures in case I'm not putting 2 and 2 together correctly.

So, does anyone know anything about these saws in the building sector to throw me a bone on where to find these parts, or if I'm just very inexperienced and missing something?

Thanks in advance all. (just let me know if this is the wrong place for this, but I figured I might get the most help on this sticky instead of adding another thread the chainsaw forum)

The chainbrake cover for those are NLA.

That said, if you want a regular non brake cover, you can still get that from Poulan, part number 530027156 for about $6

 

[Acornhill]

Enough said. Eye candy signed by Ron Hartill

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[fossil]

The Poulan Pioneers were built after ELUX bought the bankrupt Pioneer factory, closed the one in Peterborough Ont. and moved the production to Huron Park Ont.
Same for the Pioneer Partners. The P65 is the same as the 655 but are very scarce.
The 455 saw was the same as the P45. They are 72cc saws. Pioneer never built a 72 cc P series version. I have run all of them and am most impressed by the P41 series at 66 cc which has a lot of torque for a saw that size.

They are all very comfortable to run and have good balance and great handle bar placement. Easy to work on as well.

 

[Modifiedmark]

The Poulan Pioneers were built after ELUX bought the bankrupt Pioneer factory, closed the one in Peterborough Ont. and moved the production to Huron Park Ont.
Same for the Pioneer Partners. The P65 is the same as the 655 but are very scarce.
The 455 saw was the same as the P45. They are 72cc saws. Pioneer never built a 72 cc P series version. I have run all of them and am most impressed by the P41 series at 66 cc which has a lot of torque for a saw that size.

They are all very comfortable to run and have good balance and great handle bar placement. Easy to work on as well.

Yep Emab at Huron Park.

I have to clarify though, I know you mean the Pioneer based Pioneer/Partners were built in Huron Park but to keep it straight I think the Partner based Pioneer/Partner saws were still made in Sweden.

I have to agree that I think the P41 PP saws were good runners, but I could not warm up to them much, just don't feel right and are heavy, but that's just me.

 

[fossil]

I think that only the Pioneer Partner P series and the 405-655's were built there. I can't find any info about other saws that may have been assembled or made there. They may have finished some Pioneers to build out the inventory but I don't know. I know the closure of the plant in Peterborough was a bitter issue with the locals.
I'll have to dig out that document on the demise of Pioneer. There might be some info in there.

As a point of interest my Pioneer Partner P 52 was built on Oct 16, 1988 or 1989 (I'd have to check with my glasses on) and the label says 775 Neal Dr. in Peterborough. We know that's not so.

The Pioneer Partner P series I've seen have the date and serial number scribed into the paint on the bottom of the case.
I have never looked but what does label on the PP655's say as far as an address?

 

[Modifiedmark]

I think that only the Pioneer Partner P series and the 405-655's were built there. I can't find any info about other saws that may have been assembled or made there. They may have finished some Pioneers to build out the inventory but I don't know. I know the closure of the plant in Peterborough was a bitter issue with the locals.
I'll have to dig out that document on the demise of Pioneer. There might be some info in there.

As a point of interest my Pioneer Partner P 52 was built on Oct 16, 1988 or 1989 (I'd have to check with my glasses on) and the label says 775 Neal Dr. in Peterborough. We know that's not so.

The Pioneer Partner P series I've seen have the date and serial number scribed into the paint on the bottom of the case.
I have never looked but what does label on the PP655's say as far as an address?

My 655 on top the tag says something like made in Canada Emab, then down at the bottom it says the same thing as the one listed here by Nate, that is was in Huron Park.


I had a 405 Plus for just a few days before I traded it to Arrowhead, but from the picture I have of it you can see the bottom of the tag and its like my 655 tag, says made in Huron Park.

As far as Emab, I think there were some other saws made there at times, like the little POS Frontier/Danarm etc the list goes on.

I'm thinking your P52 was made in Huron Park but they probably still used a address for Pioneer in Peterborough as there was still something going on there from 84-88. What it was, I don't know. I had read that it was used for warehousing but might have still been used for office space too? I'm fairly certain there was no production going on there for those years listed.


It was strange the Poulan Pro lineup the first couple years, in 88 they had both the 405 and the 395, almost the same size saw, then in 90 they intoduced the PP475 which was close to both the 455 and the 525. They also had the PP 415 which was the same size as the 405 and the PP325 which was very much the same size as the PP 305.


Those lineups were really quite impressive, something for everyone from 33cc to 99cc.


Here is the 405+ that I had for a couple days, it was ok but I like the PP395 better, not saying one is better, just which one I liked better. Besides, Ed had been wanting a 405+ to finish his Pioneer based PP line up and he just happened to come up with a dandy Jonsered 590 that I wanted for my 50cc Partner collection, so it was on.

 

[jerrycmorrow]

Been looking for rings for a 4000. Now I'm wondering if I could put a different, larger top end on it that may be more readily accessible. Crazy?

 

[echoshawn]

Been looking for rings for a 4000. Now I'm wondering if I could put a different, larger top end on it that may be more readily accessible. Crazy?

4000 was the largest in that chassis of saws.
Could go down to a 3700 though.

 

[blk05crew]

Interesting stuff Mark and Tim, thanks for sharing that info!

I had a nice little score today, 2 NOS 5200 pistons and a husky 2100 NOS piston and rings

 

[Acornhill]

Been looking for rings for a 4000. Now I'm wondering if I could put a different, larger top end on it that may be more readily accessible. Crazy?

Just cut down a set of 7700 rings or any thin ring that is a little bigger

Yep Emab at Huron Park.

I have to clarify though, I know you mean the Pioneer based Pioneer/Partners were built in Huron Park but to keep it straight I think the Partner based Pioneer/Partner saws were still made in Sweden.

I have to agree that I think the P41 PP saws were good runners, but I could not warm up to them much, just don't feel right and are heavy, but that's just me.

My 655 on top the tag says something like made in Canada Emab, then down at the bottom it says the same thing as the one listed here by Nate, that is was in Huron Park.


I had a 405 Plus for just a few days before I traded it to Arrowhead, but from the picture I have of it you can see the bottom of the tag and its like my 655 tag, says made in Huron Park.

As far as Emab, I think there were some other saws made there at times, like the little POS Frontier/Danarm etc the list goes on.

I'm thinking your P52 was made in Huron Park but they probably still used a address for Pioneer in Peterborough as there was still something going on there from 84-88. What it was, I don't know. I had read that it was used for warehousing but might have still been used for office space too? I'm fairly certain there was no production going on there for those years listed.


It was strange the Poulan Pro lineup the first couple years, in 88 they had both the 405 and the 395, almost the same size saw, then in 90 they intoduced the PP475 which was close to both the 455 and the 525. They also had the PP 415 which was the same size as the 405 and the PP325 which was very much the same size as the PP 305.


Those lineups were really quite impressive, something for everyone from 33cc to 99cc.


Here is the 405+ that I had for a couple days, it was ok but I like the PP395 better, not saying one is better, just which one I liked better. Besides, Ed had been wanting a 405+ to finish his Pioneer based PP line up and he just happened to come up with a dandy Jonsered 590 that I wanted for my 50cc Partner collection, so it was on.
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[fossil]

My 655 on top the tag says something like made in Canada Emab, then down at the bottom it says the same thing as the one listed here by Nate, that is was in Huron Park.


I had a 405 Plus for just a few days before I traded it to Arrowhead, but from the picture I have of it you can see the bottom of the tag and its like my 655 tag, says made in Huron Park.

As far as Emab, I think there were some other saws made there at times, like the little POS Frontier/Danarm etc the list goes on.

I'm thinking your P52 was made in Huron Park but they probably still used a address for Pioneer in Peterborough as there was still something going on there from 84-88. What it was, I don't know. I had read that it was used for warehousing but might have still been used for office space too? I'm fairly certain there was no production going on there for those years listed.


It was strange the Poulan Pro lineup the first couple years, in 88 they had both the 405 and the 395, almost the same size saw, then in 90 they intoduced the PP475 which was close to both the 455 and the 525. They also had the PP 415 which was the same size as the 405 and the PP325 which was very much the same size as the PP 305.


Those lineups were really quite impressive, something for everyone from 33cc to 99cc.


Here is the 405+ that I had for a couple days, it was ok but I like the PP395 better, not saying one is better, just which one I liked better. Besides, Ed had been wanting a 405+ to finish his Pioneer based PP line up and he just happened to come up with a dandy Jonsered 590 that I wanted for my 50cc Partner collection, so it was on.
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Thanks for looking Mark. Good info.