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IMG_9442.JPG In the quest for understanding figured some actual numbers for piston skirt leakage might clear things somewhat. Setup a rotameter to measure flow out the skirt/cylinder clearance. Just off bdc it started at 1.5 scfh with 7.5psi applied 30 degrees up it went to 2.7 and at 40 it was 3.2scfh. Last flow was 4.4 about a quarter inch before the intake opened. So those numbers meant next to zero to me at that point so needing a second 'opinion' I tore down my cp70. Applied the same pressure and swept the piston through the same range and got one reading of 1.2scfh no matter where i checked. That made it more obvious how bad the sp80 condition is. So might try the new piston if the fit measures ok. Here is a pic
 
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Another test for the tool kit for sure. Saw with good compression and good seals but ran like crap.
What I initially thought to be flooding was actually spitting g due to this poor skirt fit. Will retest tomorrow with a new piston.
 
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CP70L back together and fired up first pull. Runs and idles swell
Now more ripping into the SP80

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SP80 piston skirt measures 2.050" and bore measures 2.062"
Chainswr aftermarket piston measures 2.060" so much better for sure!
Figured out some bits to pull piston pin, installed new bearings into piston then installed piston on rod. Had to use original pin as new one slides right in. Being all careful to get piston on right I got it wrong! Oh bother!
So pulling pin to switch it around
Fellas is there any OEM piston pins out there? What a cornball design somebody came up with eh!!
Continue on......
 
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I need help with how to get the rings into the cylinder? Old ones had a lot less spring to them and gave no trouble
Is there some dimensions or tips wrt an entrance sleeve or sumsuch?
At wits end on that one

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Mark came through for me again! Thank you sir.
Ring grooves not deep enough for the rings on these Chainswr pistons. Took the Dremel after the inside surface and removed 0.005" from the two rings. Lightly emery tobreak sharp edges and the piston slid right in. Very pleased
Assembled engine to try to pressure test and flow check piston. Could not get a number as it now leaks past the rings. So going to run it and maybe the rings will break in.
 
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Sp80 is a runner!
All back together and now carb adjustments make sense. Idle stop screw is out about an eight of an inch from before. Mixture screws are pretty much 1 turn out.
Idles sweet and starts easy. Compression is pretty good considering the shape of the cylinder. Will try and get it into some wood this week to seat those rings
Thanks again to Mark and Tim your tips mean a lot!
Cheers
 
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Sp80 is a runner!
All back together and now carb adjustments make sense. Idle stop screw is out about an eight of an inch from before. Mixture screws are pretty much 1 turn out.
Idles sweet and starts easy. Compression is pretty good considering the shape of the cylinder. Will try and get it into some wood this week to seat those rings
Thanks again to Mark and Tim your tips mean a lot!
Cheers

Good to hear it Walter. When you cut with that I think you will be impressed.
 
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