nighthunter
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never had a problem yet with mine and definitely have had no problems with the filter and I have cut some fairly dry dirty wood to test it out. 
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The 462 has the filter system similiar to the 441 right?
If so, From most reports... the 441 Is much better than the system as the 461,661 and so the 462 should also be better.
The filter element is same/similar in all but the “pre-filter” is a better implimentation in 441/462.
Why does Stihl stay with the crap system in those other models?
They must sell so many saws it just does not matter.
If so, From most reports... the 441 Is much better than the system as the 461,661 and so the 462 should also be better.
The filter element is same/similar in all but the “pre-filter” is a better implimentation in 441/462.
Why does Stihl stay with the crap system in those other models?
They must sell so many saws it just does not matter.
Within a pound and same stock power. Last time I checked the 572 is almost 2 pounds heavier.
I was thinking stock saws Frank
Not sure about the kg/kw conversion to pounds/hp but I seem to recall the 572 weighing quite a bit more than the 462.
Where’s @SawTroll, he will get this all worked out. My main concern is which saw has the best sideways balance anyway
SawTroll
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Within a pound and same stock power. Last time I checked the 572 is almost 2 pounds heavier.
I was thinking stock saws Frank
Not sure about the kg/kw conversion to pounds/hp but I seem to recall the 572 weighing quite a bit more than the 462.
Where’s @SawTroll, he will get this all worked out. My main concern is which saw has the best sideways balance anyway
As I recall it, the 572 is a bit heavier than the 462, at least according to specs.
At this point I'm not really updated on the latest developments from any brand though - or how true recent specs are.
Frank Rizzo
Custom Saw Modification 241c-441c,660 specialist
I was thinking stock saws Frank
You run ............. STOCK SAWS ??? ... my mistake ——- STOCK SAWS ??? Oh you poor thing
You run ............. STOCK SAWS ??? ... my mistake ——- STOCK SAWS ??? Oh you poor thing
ferris076
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No that Filter System is not similar to the 441, it is more like the filter System in the 241, 261,362
I cut only hard dry wood with my 462 and nothing past the filter.
Little Al
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Believe it or not most guys that use saws for a living on a daily basis use stock saws. The only ported saw I have is an ms250 (yes I said ms250) that Mastermind did for me years ago that is still a little ripper.
SmellyPirateHooker
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Things don't always get better.
SmellyPirateHooker
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As I see it, saws haven't really improved much since the late 80's to early/mid 90's. Throwing technology at it hasn't seemed to help, and direction by the EPA surly won't either. A better (more reliable with more power) won't happen till electric fully takes over. Any "improvements" on the gas saws will only add initial cost and make them impossible to work on by even the most skilled owner. This will soon be fact. I've called it, pointing my bat out to left field. Now just sit back and watch.
Frank Rizzo
Custom Saw Modification 241c-441c,660 specialist
Well ... can only speak for myself here ... a properly ported saw will use MORE fuel but will also INCREASE production considerably ... I use a Ported 461r for firewood processing and at the end of the day there is NO WAY I could equal the production with a Stock 461R ! (I’m talking 10+ face cord at a time 20” bar/chain) sure I may use more mix but 2.5 gal ported vs 2 gal stock is not much $$$ considering 30% + more rounds bucked ... it must be stated that in this scenario the logs / trees are laid out and a helper is assisting with a timber-jack to lift logs up so I can cut without worry of sawing into the dirt ... cut cut cut ... reposition timber jack ... rinse and repeat ~ can produce prodigious amounts of wood like this ... if you are working solo trying to maneuver logs into cutting positions then it’s a different story ... in my neck of the woods I pick-up side work bucking for tree guys and make out purty-well ... the owner-operators are always amazed at how quick the rounds are cut with the Ported saws ! Thing is ... I can make more $$$ runnin em than I can porting em and that ain’t greasy Kidd’s stuff lol !!!
SmellyPirateHooker
ArboristSite Guru
100% agreed. It's all about the amount of fuel used verse the amount of wood on the ground cut.
Frank Rizzo
Custom Saw Modification 241c-441c,660 specialist
Not really ... my point was if I cut $250 in a day with a stocker vs $350 with a ported saw I’m up $100 for the same amount of TIME ... if I use an extra 1/2 gallon of fuel / mix in doing so the cost is only a few dollars more ...
SmellyPirateHooker
ArboristSite Guru
Then you would be doing something wrong and are probably better off with a stocker. Any saw I'm able to get enough extra power out of to run at least a one tooth larger sprocket ends up cutting much faster. I mean... Duh. If that faster time adds extra cuts per tank, you win. It is possible and that's why more and more people have been doing it. My favorite example is my 288. From start to finish my fuel usage has went up per run time but not by a lot. But I really feel I'm averaging many more cuts on that tank.
cuinrearview
Red saw lover
Are your saws ported with a capital "P" @FWANK WIZZO ?
Frank Rizzo
Custom Saw Modification 241c-441c,660 specialist
Yeah ...it takes fuel to make power ... if a gallon of fuel/mix is say $5 and I use 2 gal with a stocker that’s $10 for “x” amount of wood cut ... now with ported saw I use 2.5 gal which costs me $12.50 and in return I get “x+30%” of wood cut ... 30% more wood for $2.50 - that’s a deal I’ll take everyday and twice on Sunday
It took Stihl only 18 years or so to match their competitors power to weight ratio, not bad . . .
462 is old news, 500i is new tech with specs that have been around for two decades - both are overpriced and over hyped.
Don't worry, I don't really care about Stihl vs Dolmar (or any other brand for that matter).
Makita is doing a great job killing off the large frame Dolmar's without Stihl's help.
462 is old news, 500i is new tech with specs that have been around for two decades - both are overpriced and over hyped.
Don't worry, I don't really care about Stihl vs Dolmar (or any other brand for that matter).
Makita is doing a great job killing off the large frame Dolmar's without Stihl's help.
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