Define similar.
Ported 461R ... proven chassis that when properly modded flat-out produces and running equipped with max-flow filter can cut all day ! $$$ maker IF you have the work ! Hearing lotsa reports of 462c not passing muster after some time in the woods - could be air-filter related - I’ll stick with the The tried and true myself ... 461 Might not be a 7900/7910 “killer” as it’s giving up a few ccs but it’s a saw that’s served many for long time when set/up properly
Wouldn't the 572xp be the obvious answer ? ("a weight of 6.6kg and a power level of 4.3kW")
Another saw at arms length of North American shores.
Within a pound and same stock power. Last time I checked the 572 is almost 2 pounds heavier.
I was thinking stock saws Frank
Not sure about the kg/kw conversion to pounds/hp but I seem to recall the 572 weighing quite a bit more than the 462.
Where’s @SawTroll, he will get this all worked out. My main concern is which saw has the best sideways balance anyway
No that Filter System is not similar to the 441, it is more like the filter System in the 241, 261,362The 462 has the filter system similiar to the 441 right?
If so, From most reports... the 441 Is much better than the system as the 461,661 and so the 462 should also be better.
The filter element is same/similar in all but the “pre-filter” is a better implimentation in 441/462.
Why does Stihl stay with the crap system in those other models?
They must sell so many saws it just does not matter.
Sounds as if you 'll have to buy a dozen pairs at a time =suspicious "good lady"Lots of options. A mask for "raising" funds, a pre filter for your HD2, or a noose for when you realize how much dust gets through the carb.
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I was thinking stock saws Frank
You run ............. STOCK SAWS ??? ... my mistake ——- STOCK SAWS ??? Oh you poor thing
Things don't always get better.finally something in the last 25-30 years of powersaws to get cautiously excited about!
(since the last 25-30 years have taken us virtually nowhere in powersaws, when you compare the best saws of yesteryear to the best saws of today)
Well ... can only speak for myself here ... a properly ported saw will use MORE fuel but will also INCREASE production considerably ... I use a Ported 461r for firewood processing and at the end of the day there is NO WAY I could equal the production with a Stock 461R ! (I’m talking 10+ face cord at a time 20” bar/chain) sure I may use more mix but 2.5 gal ported vs 2 gal stock is not much $$$ considering 30% + more rounds bucked ... it must be stated that in this scenario the logs / trees are laid out and a helper is assisting with a timber-jack to lift logs up so I can cut without worry of sawing into the dirt ... cut cut cut ... reposition timber jack ... rinse and repeat ~ can produce prodigious amounts of wood like this ... if you are working solo trying to maneuver logs into cutting positions then it’s a different story ... in my neck of the woods I pick-up side work bucking for tree guys and make out purty-well ... the owner-operators are always amazed at how quick the rounds are cut with the Ported saws ! Thing is ... I can make more $$$ runnin em than I can porting em and that ain’t greasy Kidd’s stuff lol !!!Believe it or not most guys that use saws for a living on a daily basis use stock saws. The only ported saw I have is an ms250 (yes I said ms250) that Mastermind did for me years ago that is still a little ripper.
100% agreed. It's all about the amount of fuel used verse the amount of wood on the ground cut.Well ... can only speak for myself here ... a properly ported saw will use MORE fuel but will also INCREASE production considerably ... I use a Ported 461r for firewood processing and at the end of the day there is NO WAY I could equal the production with a Stock 461R ! (I’m talking 10+ face cord at a time 20” bar/chain) sure I may use more mix but 2.5 gal ported vs 2 gal stock is not much $$$ considering 30% + more rounds bucked ... it must be stated that in this scenario the logs / trees are laid out and a helper is assisting with a timber-jack to lift logs up so I can cut without worry of sawing into the dirt ... cut cut cut ... reposition timber jack ... rinse and repeat ~ can produce prodigious amounts of wood like this ... if you are working solo trying to maneuver logs into cutting positions then it’s a different story ... in my neck of the woods I pick-up side work bucking for tree guys and make out purty-well ... the owner-operators are always amazed at how quick the rounds are cut with the Ported saws ! Thing is ... I can make more $$$ runnin em than I can porting em and that ain’t greasy Kidd’s stuff lol !!!
Not really ... my point was if I cut $250 in a day with a stocker vs $350 with a ported saw I’m up $100 for the same amount of TIME ... if I use an extra 1/2 gallon of fuel / mix in doing so the cost is only a few dollars more ...100% agreed. It's all about the amount of fuel used verse the amount of wood on the ground cut.
Then you would be doing something wrong and are probably better off with a stocker. Any saw I'm able to get enough extra power out of to run at least a one tooth larger sprocket ends up cutting much faster. I mean... Duh. If that faster time adds extra cuts per tank, you win. It is possible and that's why more and more people have been doing it. My favorite example is my 288. From start to finish my fuel usage has went up per run time but not by a lot. But I really feel I'm averaging many more cuts on that tank.Not really ... my point was if I cut $250 in a day with a stocker vs $350 with a ported saw I’m up $100 for the same amount of TIME ... if I use an extra 1/2 gallon of fuel / mix in doing so the cost is only a few dollars more ...
Are your saws ported with a capital "P" @FWANK WIZZO ?I pick-up side work bucking for tree guys and make out purty-well ... the owner-operators are always amazed at how quick the rounds are cut with the Ported saws !
Yeah ...it takes fuel to make power ... if a gallon of fuel/mix is say $5 and I use 2 gal with a stocker that’s $10 for “x” amount of wood cut ... now with ported saw I use 2.5 gal which costs me $12.50 and in return I get “x+30%” of wood cut ... 30% more wood for $2.50 - that’s a deal I’ll take everyday and twice on SundayThen you would be doing something wrong and are probably better off with a stocker. Any saw I'm able to get enough extra power out of to run at least a one tooth larger sprocket ends up cutting much faster. I mean... Duh. If that faster time adds extra cuts per tank, you win. It is possible and that's why more and more people have been doing it. My favorite example is my 288. From start to finish my fuel usage has went up per run time but not by a lot. But I really feel I'm averaging many more cuts on that tank.
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