30-40/hr here is a little steep. Better be able to tow the mark. That would include being with the service for awhile, running the crew etc. I've been really grappling with this same question lately...stay, go, or try to strike on my own. On one hand, nothing like being your own boss. On the other, this is an expensive business! The insurance, the equipment upkeep, the downtime and unforseen repairs. God forbid the unthinkable accident or property damage, never ending streams of phone calls and errands to run. Tough call to make really. I've thought seriously about reaching out to other services to see about the 'climber for hire" opportunites that might be available. However, I've been with the same guy for 5 years or so now....hard to turn your back on your friend and someone that's been good to you. I just want to accel and he's kinda stagnant now. Sorry to hijack your thread there....just saw a common interest and had to start rambling.