Thomas Lilli
ArboristSite Member
I see thanks.That 1/4 turn is all the way up. That stop you feel is the pump body itself.
I see thanks.That 1/4 turn is all the way up. That stop you feel is the pump body itself.
I have wrap handles on my 361 and 461. I live in PA.Why no wrap saws on the rh coast ? i never understood that . You guys have 2 hands just like us .
Because 1) We cut a lot of lawn trees, and you can get the stump lower w/o them, and;
2) They add weight to a saw that is not necessary if you are not a feller.
Mike,They are similar in a lot of ways, but the 461 is a quad port and the lower transfer feeds from the front (not the sides), so the cylinder bolt pattern is longer.
3 of the 4 starter recoil bolts will line up, and you can swap em, but they are not the same. Also, the decomp on a 461 is not in the center, and they have 3 bolt / limited RPM coils. (but you can swap coils and they run just fine).
Also, the 461 comes with a HD-50 carb … has different fuel circuitry. Most 440s/460s don't like that carb, but I have one ported 460 that just really improved with that carb … go figure! (It won the ported 460 competition at this years Upstate NY GTG.)
460s and 461s share the same tank holders and mufflers, chain brakes, etc. I think the flywheels, oilers and clutches are also the same.
They have the same HP, but most people feel the 461 has a broader torque range.
They make a lot of sense for felling, but I mostly do bucking and limbing, and the trees I fell are not usually that large, so sometimes I will just use the top of the bar for the back cut, etc.
I do own a wrap handle for a 660, and may install it sometime, but I think it may also get in the way if I'm milling.
The reason they make different saws with different options is so we can all choose what works for us.
If I did a lot of felling of large trees, I'm sure I would have one.
Usually you can order just a power head, B+C are extra (with various choices). However, 461s may currently be limited to stock at the wholesalers, I think the 462 is replacing them.
IMO, the 462 is a real nice saw! Lighter, same power, spring AV, clean air filter tech and M Tronic (you don't need a tuning screwdriver).
I have 2 of them (both ported), but even the stock ones exceed the advertised 6 Hp on the dyno.
That 462 is a hell of a machine btw!I just bought one! .. It's all I would care to use anymore, that's kinda what started this "Selling Evevrything" post without much thought!!!!
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