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panolo

panolo

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Realistically the closures are to prevent an overload to the health care system. Will people die from this? Yes they will. Will more people die from this than the strains of influenza this year? No.
The scenario we are trying to avoid is every butter diick who thinks they are dying but will be better in 3 days from going into the hospitals and keeping the people who are vulnerable to respiratory sickness from getting the care they need. If you can slow the transmission of it our healthcare system is strong enough to keep many folks from an ill fate.

As someone who takes care of one of these vulnerable people I have been doing my research and limiting the situations my mother will be in where she would be in contact with groups of people.
 
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Realistically the closures are to prevent an overload to the health care system. Will people die from this? Yes they will. Will more people die from this than the strains of influenza this year? No.
The scenario we are trying to avoid is every butter diick who thinks they are dying but will be better in 3 days from going into the hospitals and keeping the people who are vulnerable to respiratory sickness from getting the care they need. If you can slow the transmission of it our healthcare system is strong enough to keep many folks from an ill fate.

As someone who takes care of one of these vulnerable people I have been doing my research and limiting the situations my mother will be in where she would be in contact with groups of people.
Exactly...be smart about it.

But reality is that the fearmongering instilled by the media has a lot of folks running scared.

I'm neighbor with the county that is the epicenter for PA, it's one step short of sheer panic right now for some...that's why our shipping is slowing, they are restricted (I guess that's a nice word than quarantined) from travel outside that county...that affects mail, UPS, FedEx.

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I hate to admit it but I made money on that. Competition shooters were offering $30 a box. Who was I to turn them down.
I did too, but I'm not afraid to say it.
Did a trade on a honda eu3000is generator for cash and a bunch of 22lr, I sold a couple thousand ends and gave a few friends 500/555 packs and kept a couple for myself and I already had a good number of them. I don't think I've shot a full box of them since then, usually plinking with the .17hmr.
 
steved

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from the statements being told. the average American city dweller holds a 3 day supply of nonperishable food... not much survival hope in that! lock and loaded here for the unprepared! food, water, medical and "TP" to keep the fingers free of crap. "REALLY"!
From my experience with city dwellers, that average means that 10 percent have something greater than 3 days and 90 percent have next to nothing.

I had married friends that didn't even have a refrigerator, bought something every night.

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From my experience with city dwellers, that average means that 10 percent have something greater than 3 days and 90 percent have next to nothing.

I had married friends that didn't even have a refrigerator, bought something every night.

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Kinda like us.. in the winter months we can keep some cold/frozen foods in a cooler but summer time our diet changes. I visit the grocery store quite frequently although I'm in town for work every day so doesn't bother me.
 
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Kinda like us.. in the winter months we can keep some cold/frozen foods in a cooler but summer time our diet changes. I visit the grocery store quite frequently although I'm in town for work every day so doesn't bother me.
Did I miss the new tractor pics?:innocent:
 
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Realistically the closures are to prevent an overload to the health care system. Will people die from this? Yes they will. Will more people die from this than the strains of influenza this year? No.
The scenario we are trying to avoid is every butter diick who thinks they are dying but will be better in 3 days from going into the hospitals and keeping the people who are vulnerable to respiratory sickness from getting the care they need. If you can slow the transmission of it our healthcare system is strong enough to keep many folks from an ill fate.

As someone who takes care of one of these vulnerable people I have been doing my research and limiting the situations my mother will be in where she would be in contact with groups of people.
exactly. read th link i posted a few pages back, there is great explanation, with an animated graph. basically if the same number of people are infected overall, but slower and with a lower peak, the health service can cope better, icu beds and ventilators don't run short so bad and 10s of times less people die. However the UK....e are taking the approach of just let it rip, get it done and not drag......oh heck. i'm concerned, data from spanish flu, china now and emerging from italy shows delay is working.....we seem to know better apparently.
 
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Scrounged some more wood, and got it blocked up yesterday... Today cleared up nice after teh morning rain, and turned out sunny and warm, 70* I believe... Cranked up some Skynyrd,,, and hand split and stacked it all!!! Nothing like like some good hard work to ward off flu symtoms!!!!! Hope you all got a lot done also!!!!!
 
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I wish you tractorless guys would help me out. I have too many tractors. Don't tell my wife but I have eleven tractors! Five of them are 4x4. I would sell the 6 that are 2 wheel drive. A Farmall H and M, JD 3020 diesel with loader, Ford 3000 diesel, Ford Jubilee and a Fordson Major diesel.
 
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I wish you tractorless guys would help me out. I have too many tractors. Don't tell my wife but I have eleven tractors! Five of them are 4x4. I would sell the 6 that are 2 wheel drive. A Farmall H and M, JD 3020 diesel with loader, Ford 3000 diesel, Ford Jubilee and a Fordson Major diesel.
I’m in NB Canada if ever you happen to be close to home.

Good for you to have all those, though. And good on you to either keeping it a secret or convincing her to have them all :)
 
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The kids are suspect as they can supposedly carry it with no symptoms ever manifesting...and still spread it.

They closed all the schools in the neighboring county...all my clients told me no meetings (this is countrywide, not local). They canceled all the events at our school, figure it will close next week out of peer pressure.

The mortality by age is interesting, affects mainly older folks...unlike the flu that is non-discriminatory.

Also, it appears to be exponentially increasing...two weeks ago, we had a handful, last week a hundred, this week a thousand, next week should be in theb10k range possibly. And you are correct, we don't even understand it fully yet, let alone have much control of it...

The grocery stores are nuts around here...no toilet paper or cleaning products, they were carrying food out like it was a winter storm. I'm glad I live out in the country, I don't have to worry about venison spoiling when it's still walking around...

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Yep. Shopped at Winco this morning. Parking lot jammed, store jammed, every check stand running (I've never seen more than 4 open before). Paper good shelves almost bare with a 2 item limit. Carts going through the checker heaped up and sometimes 2 carts at a time. Government keep saying "don't panic" but then keeps harping on it. Can't even watch the news as that is all that is on it.
 
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Yep. Shopped at Winco this morning. Parking lot jammed, store jammed, every check stand running (I've never seen more than 4 open before). Paper good shelves almost bare with a 2 item limit. Carts going through the checker heaped up and sometimes 2 carts at a time. Government keep saying "don't panic" but then keeps harping on it. Can't even watch the news as that is all that is on it.
Just shuttered all the schools statewide through the end of the month...

If there was panic, it will be a frenzy now...

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