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I tried to answer yesterday but the site is screwing up, It didn't post. I have lots of hours on the saw but don't know how many. I don't even recall when I bout it but it was many years ago and has been my main saw. Been eatting 10-12 cord/yr, seomtimes more.

I tried the MS191 today. Not impressed. With a 16" bar, fresh chain cuttin 14" willow logs, it was way slower than the 362, termperamental on starting, hardly any power. I doubl it would pull a 20" bar. I keep telling myself that it isn't broken in yet but...

I'm taking the 362 to John's Saw Shop in Lewistonk, Id tomorrow to get a second opinion and if it needs it, leave it there to be fixed.
I'm going to guess that if you got a 261 Ver II it would be perfect for you. Trade the 362 and 191 in on it!
 
He may not have realized he was bidding "per piece".
I saw a guy bit for traps once. He thought he was getting a dozen traps for $12. or something, but it was per trap.
When the auctioneer said "sold, $12. each." the guy back peddled.
Auctioneer asked the crowd, did any one else not understand? Silence.
No rebidding...sold, $12. per piece. Next...
Depends on the traps. I sold off all my traps 17 years ago when I realized that raising kids left ZERO time to run a line let alone put up fur. At the time, some of the high -end coyote traps were well over $20 a piece for new steel. heck, even decent coon traps were $7-$8 bucks a piece once you added chain, swivels and whatever you needed for anchoring.
 
Traps...another thing that’s cheap to sell but expensive to buy.

I have several 330 conibear for trapping beaver. And I occasionally borrow a 110 or 220 from my neighbor when I end up with a problem groundhog.

One year we had a lot of problem beaver at the house. Right before dusk I put out two 330’s in his sluiceway. Sitting at the fire pit (about 50 yards away) waiting for the snap. SNAP splash slash splash silence. Gave it ten minutes and went over. Empty trap but some white feathers floating. Darn diver duck (probably a merganser) set it off and was too small to be caught. I’m sure he about pooped his pants after that ordeal. Reset the trap and the beaver was in by morning.
 
What types of traps are you guys talking about? We can only use cage type traps here in California, the type that clamps their foot were outlawed when I was a kid.
I’m assuming those guys are talking about foothold. I’m talking about what are PC called “body gripping traps” ie they snap around the animals neck when they pass through.
 
I'm going to guess that if you got a 261 Ver II it would be perfect for you. Trade the 362 and 191 in on it!
My age is showing. The saw is a 291, not 191. It was sounding a lot better today, maybe just needs breaking in. It is very annoying to start. I'm used to Stihl "choke on, pull twice and it coughs, choke off pull and it runs. The 291 I pull 3 times - no cough. I figure one more pull and it'll be flooded so take choke off. Lots of pulls with no result. Back to start and repeat. take a break and figure 'try again' and it is running with one pull (no choke).

I'm taking the 362 to Lewiston Monday to see what they say. I may take the 291 and have them demonstrate the start procedure.
 
What types of traps are you guys talking about? We can only use cage type traps here in California, the type that clamps their foot were outlawed when I was a kid.
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Like this. Very effective for beaver trapping. Here in Wisconsin you can only use the larger 280 and 330 size in water for trapping beaver. This is to prevent trapping non target species and domestic animals.
 
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Like this. Very effective for beaver trapping. Here in Wisconsin you can only use the larger 280 and 330 size in water for trapping beaver. This is to prevent trapping non target species and domestic animals.
I’ve never seen a size 280. Even a 330 is on the small size if you get into the jumbo beavers. We’ve got them as big as 86 lbs off our property. My personal biggest was 68 lbs.
 
I’ve never seen a size 280. Even a 330 is on the small size if you get into the jumbo beavers. We’ve got them as big as 86 lbs off our property. My personal biggest was 68 lbs.
I haven't seen the 280 size personally. I referenced the regulations quickly before writing my post and they mentioned the 280 and 330 size traps can't be used on land. I have friends who trap and I've seen 50ish lb. beavers but nothing bigger. 68 lbs is an impressive rodent!

I pheasant hunt in the Dakotas and Conibears are allowed for dryland sets there. I always carry two very large cable ties in my vest to hold the springs to release my dog if I need to. I hope I never have to.
 
I haven't seen the 280 size personally. I referenced the regulations quickly before writing my post and they mentioned the 280 and 330 size traps can't be used on land. I have friends who trap and I've seen 50ish lb. beavers but nothing bigger. 68 lbs is an impressive rodent!

I pheasant hunt in the Dakotas and Conibears are allowed for dryland sets there. I always carry two very large cable ties in my vest to hold the springs to release my dog if I need to. I hope I never have to.
We were always very careful about our traps but my dad’s first golden retriever did get caught once. Luckily he heard it and got him out quickly. Luckily, Max was a big/muscular golden and escaped with only damage to one of his front middle teeth.
 
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Like this. Very effective for beaver trapping. Here in Wisconsin you can only use the larger 280 and 330 size in water for trapping beaver. This is to prevent trapping non target species and domestic animals.
Pretty sure 220"s are the largest size allowed on dry land in Michigan, and even those have to be 4' off the ground and in a box. There was a HUGE debate a few years back over dry land snares. I trapped most of my young life, and hate regulations as much as the next guy, but I never felt they were a good fit here.
 
Pretty sure 220"s are the largest size allowed on dry land in Michigan, and even those have to be 4' off the ground and in a box. There was a HUGE debate a few years back over dry land snares. I trapped most of my young life, and hate regulations as much as the next guy, but I never felt they were a good fit here.
I saw a 350 the other day, it was totally rotted out, that ford was a pretty big trap:laughing:.
Did you find a new scrounging ride yet.
 

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