Is "Bar-Oil" made for *Suckers* ??

[cityboy]

Not even close here, but the relationship may be different in North America - regular fuel is 95 octane here, and premium is 98, buth unleaded.

the octane rating systems for the US and Europe are different, so the numbers can't be directly compared without understanding the rating systems.

the US uses the average of the Research Octane and Motor Octane ratings, typically indicated as R+M/2 on our pumps. Europe uses Research Octane only, which typically runs around 10 pts. or so higher than Motor Octane ratings, but I don't remember exactly so it could be slightly more or less than 10. Taking that into account, the European octane content is very similar to that in the US, within a couple of points at the most.

 

[cityboy]

I'm begining to think msh just wanted to get a rise out of us since he is no longer viewing this thread.opcorn:

I've often wondered the same thing myself.

He does get the bandwidth meter jumping though. And as much as I enjoy viewing JPEGs of scuffed pistons and cylinders, its sometimes interesting to just BS about meaningless topics like this once in a while as well.

 

[bwalker]

That is fine, but I prefer some real evidence. At a minumum I am wondering what Ben is basing his opinion on here.

I base my comments on papers I read while in School. MY BS is in environmental sci.
The research is out there, especially as it pertains to petro vs vegi hydro fluids. Most of the research was done in Scandinavia.

Course many regulations have taken things to the insane extreme like with some municipal organizations, if they spill one drop of hydraulic fluid by law they are supposed to call the EPA to get men in white suits to do a cleanup.

They would really **** of they where on a logging job up here. Feller bunchers, skidders, forwarders and the like are always breaking hydro hoses. Its not uncommon to have a hose break and lose 20-30 gallons of fluid.

 

[newguy18]

Heck not that long ago when I was fixing cars all the timewhen chageing oil I'd just dig a hole and bury the used oil.When I last chaged my mom's oil there was a big hairline crack in the drain pail and about 5 quarts of oil went all over the yard but that one was an accident.

 

[rahtreelimbs]

Hey you could use crude oil here also!!!!!! Then you wouldn't have to carry around 2 jugs!!!!!!!

Just like Dolly Pardon!!!

 

[jhellwig]

2 oily jugs? Hmmmmm. I must go see my woman.

 

[Cedarkerf]

Just chimming in like eveybody else. Jet fuel has to be checked regularly for microbes that like to live in it so I am thinkin that gasoline could also be broken down as posted earlier.:spam:

 

[Lakeside53]

Not even close here, but the relationship may be different in North America - regular fuel is 95 octane here, and premium is 98, buth unleaded.

All pump gas in the USA is unleaded. As for Aspen, if you think naptha is "environmentally friendly", sniff your aspen for a few hours... and good luck....

 

[Lakeside53]

You feel that cold breeze??? Hell is freezing over... because I am agreeing with Ben!

Gary

+1

 

[bwalker]

Aspen is a high alkylate fuel(100LL avgas is too) and is not similar to Naptha.

 

[Lakeside53]

Aspen is a high alkylate fuel(100LL avgas is too) and is not simular to Naptha.

The MSDS equivalent from Europe shows Aspen to be largely Naptha - up to 100%.


check this: http://www.aspen.se/Files/PDF/sakerhetsdatablad/ovriga/UK-2T.pdf

 

[bwalker]

In another thread the MSDS equivalent from Europe showed Aspen to be largely Naptha.


check this: http://www.aspen.se/Files/PDF/sakerh...riga/UK-2T.pdf
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It isnt Coleman fuel!

http://www.petrostrategies.org/Learning Center/Refining.htm

Alkylation and Isomerization
In the alkylation process, isobutane is reacted with either isobutylene or propylene to form complex paraffin isomers. the reactions take place in the presence of hydrofluoric or sulfuric acid catalysts. By combing these molecules the octane level of the paraffin isomer or alkylate is increased to around 93-96 octane. Refiners use this process to improve the octane level of the gasoline pool.

Light naphtha (90-190 oF.) can have its octane number improved by the use of an isomerization process to convert normal paraffins into their isomers. This results in an increase in octane number as evidenced by increase in normal pentane (62 octane) to iso-pentane (92 octane). The process uses a platinum catalyst. Like alkylation, this process improves the octane quality of the gasoline pool.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naphtha

Naphtha is used primarily as feedstock for producing a high octane gasoline component via the catalytic reforming process.

The generic name naphtha describes a range of different refinery intermediate products used in different applications.

 

[Lakeside53]

So? Wasn't talking about Coleman. Aspen is is "Naphtha".

 

[LarryTheCableGuy]

What is "simular"?

.

 

[bwalker]

Naptha can refer to a variety of differant compounds. Coleman fuel being just one.
Aspen is Alkylated naptha, which meens it is a high parrifin content, high octane fuel. Both of these properties make it ideal for a motor fuel.
Coleman fuel it is not.
I still am not buying that Aspen is any better for the environment or user than regular no lead gas. It has a CAS# for a reason..

 

[CaseyForrest]

Bar oil??? Again???

Or did that dog get killed in the first couple of posts and Toms outta ammo......

 

[Lakeside53]

I still am not buying that Aspen is any better for the environment or user than regular no lead gas. It has a CAS# for a reason..

Which is exactly and only what I was saying....

 

[GASoline71]

I'm begining to think msh just wanted to get a rise out of us since he is no longer viewing this thread.opcorn:

All his thread are like that... meaningless and meant to stir the pot.

Gary

 

[newguy18]

thanks for clearing that up for me Gary.

 

[GASoline71]

thanks for clearing that up for me Gary.

No sweat... that's why I'm here...:hmm3grin2orange:

Gary