Scrounging Firewood (and other stuff)

[svk]

Anybody here have any idea on the year and displacement of this old Mac? The chain is huge! Way bigger than .404, and this relic has a reduction gear with a sight glass! What an old Beast! Check out the bracing on the reinforced wrap! To cool! Also, I could be wrong but,I'm assuming the saw is direct drive into the gear box with no clutch. Therefore, no cover plate! Just a little aluminum block to clamp the bar on! The entire chain is exsposed while running! I'll bet this thing vibrated so hard it would "Shake Your Foundations"!View attachment 997380
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Is there any collectors on this website that may want this for parts Maybe? My neighbor dropped it off just a few minutes ago. He was going to toss it. I'd hate to see it thrown away. Especially if someone might need a part or two off of it that they've been looking for! Any info on this old vintage saw would be awesome! I've never been a Mc Man, but some collectors are crazy about these old saws!

Cut safe, stay sharp, and be aware!

@heimannm is the fellow in Iowa that owns the museum. He’s a class guy.

 

[Philbert]

Whitespider? He did use wax too.

Nope. Not a ‘chainsaw guy’. I think that it was an old Boy Scout ‘trick’ that was passed down.

Philbert

 

[mountainguyed67]

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This looks familiar, where is it?

 

[djg james]

No, actually not. It was just so you could see the size comparison between the different Stihl's and the Mac. But since you brought it up. I might as well capitalize on it!

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Cut safe, stay sharp, and be aware!

Man, a lot of you have WAY too many saws. With this new "Gift" button, I'd be happy to take one off your hands.... preferably a 90 cc saw .

 

[WoodAbuser]

Man, a lot of you have WAY too many saws. With this new "Gift" button, I'd be happy to take one off your hands.... preferably a 90 cc saw .

There is no such thing as too many saws. There is always a need for one more.

 

[Sierra_rider]

Agreed!

My brother lives in Sacramento. He asked if I'd come down and help him scrounge up some firewood this Summer. I told him he'd have a better chance of me either over night air freighting him a cord, or hell freezing over before I went down there in the middle of Summer to help out with firewood! It gets over 100 during Summer months in the Sacramento Valley!!! No thanks!

Cut safe, stay sharp, and be aware!

I'm up in the mountains, but do do a fair bit of cutting down on the lower slopes of the foothills where it gets pretty warm. Nothing like cutting down there in summer to break yourself off. It still gets kinda warm where I live, but it's usually 15-20 degrees cooler than Sac...case in point, I think it's supposed to be in the mid-90's today in Sac, only upper 70's here.

 

[Sierra_rider]

Man, a lot of you have WAY too many saws. With this new "Gift" button, I'd be happy to take one off your hands.... preferably a 90 cc saw .

I've got a few saws too...sorry, but can't give you a 90cc saw. I've only got 1...if you said 70cc, I've got 5 in between 70-80cc...6 if you count a 68cc saw to be in the 70 class lol.

 

[mountainguyed67]

Im gonna ask the Forest Service people I volunteer with why they stress the back cut being higher

I was camping and clearing trail with them over the weekend, and asked this question. They said that’s your holding wood.

They didn’t like that girls cut either, cut too close to the undercut and too low, wiping out the holding wood. Supposed to be ten percent holding wood. I’m not trying to change any minds, just following up.

 

[djg james]

You LAUGHING at me?? You Laughing at ME??? Isn't that's what the Gift button is all about?

Seriously, I don't get it. I've never seen a member give another $ especially not being in a PM. I suggested to a Moderator (notice I capitalized it as with God) that a "Thank You" button would be appropriate as I've seen on other forums. Especially since I ask a lot of questions.

 

[Sierra_rider]

I was camping and clearing trail with them over the weekend, and asked this question. They said that’s your holding wood.

They didn’t like that girls cut either, cut too close to the undercut and too low, wiping out the holding wood. Supposed to be ten percent holding wood. I’m not trying to change any minds, just following up.

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The correct terminology for the higher back cut would be "stump shot." It's basically designed as a safety feature to keep the butt of the log from sliding back on the stump once the holding wood breaks. Someone like Kodiak can chime in more, but is mostly used on conventional cuts and where you're worried about the butt coming back on you(steep uphill, cut tree hitting another tree, etc.) With a Humboldt cut, not as much stump shot is necessary, as the physics of the sloping cut is assisting with this.

 

[Kodiak Kid]

There is no such thing as too many saws. There is always a need for one more.

When it comes to saw benches and gun safes. Their is always room for at least one more!

 

[Sierra_rider]

I was camping and clearing trail with them over the weekend, and asked this question. They said that’s your holding wood.

They didn’t like that girls cut either, cut too close to the undercut and too low, wiping out the holding wood. Supposed to be ten percent holding wood. I’m not trying to change any minds, just following up.

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To tack on more, most of my cutting is on the wildand fire side of the industry...I personally don't follow everything that is in some of different agencies saw programs, but understand their reasoning. Most of us weren't/aren't production fallers and it's a set of parameters designed for average people to cut/fall safely IMO. Some of us do have a saw background outside of our main career, but a lot of the guys have very little experience in the private sector.

 

[H-Ranch]

Then why call him Gunny???

"We" didn't name him gunny, that's the username he chose. And I'm quite certain there were no requirements to provide military credentials to get it. LOL. So that's why he was called gunny. Quite a character. Did I mention that he was not a Marine?

 

[Kodiak Kid]

I was camping and clearing trail with them over the weekend, and asked this question. They said that’s your holding wood.

They didn’t like that girls cut either, cut too close to the undercut and too low, wiping out the holding wood. Supposed to be ten percent holding wood. I’m not trying to change any minds, just following up.

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If you know what to look for? You can see that the female smoke jumper is felling a snag into its lean. Meaning away from, or out from the face. Witch means no wedges required. Some Snags in early stages of decomposition can be extremely light and tough. Therefore more "holding wood" must be relieved to get them to commit. I've had the back cut of snags 24" in diameter broken off half way up the trunk 50 foot high. That were so dry, lite and tough. They were lifted with two or three sets of married wedges. Two and a half, maybe three inches off the stump with only a 3/4" maybe even 1/2" of even hinge (holding wood) across the stump and the snag Stihl didn't commit until I tickled the center of the face with my saw! Lifted 2.5 maybe 3 inches!!! So as far as the "Forest Service People" go? They can tell the professional female smoke jumper who fells standing timber (on fire mind you) for a living! That they don't like her timber felling fundamentals and offer to give her a lesson on it! Furthermore, The "Forest Service People" need to explain the step in the stump to folks better and in more detail. If you look in the diagram. The "holding wood" is the wood in-between the face cut, and back cut. Stihl "holding" the tree on the stump!!! The hight of your back cut. Weather above or below your face cut. Has absolutely nothing to do with your "holding wood". A higher back cut, or "step" creates a safty stop to prevent the tree from sliding or shooting back off the stump. (Stump Shot) Once the hinge or "holding wood" brakes! Thus causing the tree to separate from the stump. That is all the step is for. I'm Just say'n pardner.

 

[Philbert]

Knew a guy made his fire starters from dryer lint and and toilet paper rolls. Might have used some wax too (?).

OK, was doing laundry, so took some dryer lint; stuffed it into an inch-and-a-half section of a cardboard, TP roll; set it on the BBQ; and touched a match to it.

Kept burning for more than a minute. I guess that it would depend somewhat on the type of clothes lint (cotton, polyester, wool, etc.), how tight you pack it, and how long of a TP tube.

I assume that melting wax over it would turn it into a multi-wick candle, and would work even better.

It was 101°F here today, so did not want to play too much with it.

Philbert

 

[Sawyer Rob]

I take plastic grocery bags that everyone has too many of, and fill it with sawdust, (or dryer lint) then pour used oil (everything from oil from the frypan to motor oil to old hydraulic oil) into the bag and tie the top.

I can make them up and have them ready when I want to start the stove. I put one in the stove cover it with small wood, then big wood and light the bag and have a nice fire very fast.

It's a good way to get rid of the bags, oil and/or sawdust/chips, and I don't have to buy anything spl. to do it....

SR

 

[Kodiak Kid]

I take plastic grocery bags that everyone has too many of, and fill it with sawdust, (or dryer lint) then pour used oil (everything from oil from the frypan to motor oil to old hydraulic oil) into the bag and tie the top.

I can make them up and have them ready when I want to start the stove. I put one in the stove cover it with small wood, then big wood and light the bag and have a nice fire very fast.

It's a good way to get rid of the bags, oil and/or sawdust/chips, and I don't have to buy anything spl. to do it....

SR

Very nice! Great idea!

 

[SS396driver]

Back home 1078 miles in five days . And went from sunny mid 80s to windy rainy mid 50s in 24 hours . I had to improvise a shelter around the fire

 

[SS396driver]

I take plastic grocery bags that everyone has too many of, and fill it with sawdust, (or dryer lint) then pour used oil (everything from oil from the frypan to motor oil to old hydraulic oil) into the bag and tie the top.

I can make them up and have them ready when I want to start the stove. I put one in the stove cover it with small wood, then big wood and light the bag and have a nice fire very fast.

It's a good way to get rid of the bags, oil and/or sawdust/chips, and I don't have to buy anything spl. to do it....

SR

Sounds like a good solution . Can’t do that here ,plastic grocery bags are banned statewide it’s a good thing . I see less and less bags floating around and tangled up in trees

 

[djg james]

My used motor oil goes down the ground hog holes around my yard.