Worldwide Construction Equipment got me for $9600.00!

[TexasTreemonkey]

Man if anybody wants to email him or heck even give him a call, PLEASE!! The more places i post this, the more people that email him, the more people that call him, the better chance i have of getting my money back AND the better chance he wont do this again. I love the fact that i found this website and how ya'll dont even know me but feel for me and are willing to do alittle something for me. Love ya'll and this industry!
D@mn, bury me with a chainsaw in my hand!

 

[lt1nut]

800/866 phone numbers are ALWAYS fun to call. You know, inquire about all sorts of things. Many times...

Hmmm, wonder if he has voice mail on that number????

 

[hornett224]

i called the 866 # just now but it's late.

i left a pleasant message,LOL.

i'll be calling back during business hours i can assure you.

 

[Justice]

check out buildingtradesdir.com They have a on-line forum as well.
Look at the list of advertisers.
You can spread the discussion to that forum as well!

 

[treemandan]

How about some photos?

I feel a little uneasy about your using ArboristSite as a tool in a smear campaign against a business.


Third parties making harassing phone calls when no evidence has been presented?


What proof do you have?

Its not that bad is it? Proof? A large equipment dealer is Bristol Pa? Proof enough, take me to jail. I would like to see this rusty piece of crap though. It sounds common enough to me. I just don't see how these guys keep finding marks.

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

Yes some photos would be nice.

I don't doubt TexasTreemonkey got taken.

Me too, I did leave Bob a message that his friends were on a campaign to clog his voicemail until there was resolution on the bait and switch.

Do you have copies of the shots he sold you with to, to verify the bait and switch? Any email contact that said that the rig is in working condition?

 

[2FatGuys]

I feel a little uneasy about your using ArboristSite as a tool in a smear campaign against a business.

Third parties making harassing phone calls when no evidence has been presented?

+1

What appears to be happening here is that we are getting up in arms over something that has happened to "one of our own". While it is a good thing to be informed, it is legally dangerous for unbridled third party action prior to the establishment, by jurisdictional law enforcement, of the crimes committed and the levy of charges against the perpetrator of those crimes. In this litigious society, any 3rd grader with aspirations of becoming a lawyer one day could find enough in these posts to file "harrassment", "libel", and "slander" claims against the person who was the victim of the original crime(s). While those chrages may never reach a sentancing phase due to lack of true evidence, it could end up costing the original victim more in legal fees than his original loss. There are ways to fight this, within the protection of our established laws, without exposing the original victim, and anyone that presents action on his behalf, to fiscal loss and liability for defense.

This perpetrator needs to be shut down, but we, as a group, cannot enact that process. Only the victim, through proper legal process, has that ability. And our collective actions can cause significant detrement to that process.

Please be careful. Your actions may be what prevents TexasTreemonkey from successfully stopping this unethical activity and keep the perpetrator from getting his just rewards. How would you feel if your actions are what cause TexasTreemonkey to come away without recovering any of his loss? How many people on here would be upset at you if word got out that it was your fault? Let those trained in the legal process handle this in ways that PROTECT TexasTreemonkey's interests.

 

[hornett224]

Bob called me this morning.

i gave him a little trouble and then called him back.seems like a decent guy from our conversation so i directed him here so he could defend himself.

:smoking:

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

Bob Tressler Called me back and said that he has offered to buy the lift back.

The OEM has offered to do a rebuild on the rig at no cost, if the tree company wants to keep it.

Mr. Tressler assures me that he wants to do whatever it takes to make it right by his customer.

He is an equipment broker, and admits that his client got the short end of the stick. His company is taking the prior owner to court on the matter and states that he has wired a portion of the fees (profit) back to the upset client.

I would ask the site members to not call Mr. Tressler until we find how this is shaking out.

 

[BlueRidgeMark]

It sounds common enough to me. I just don't see how these guys keep finding marks.

Well, that's an interesting question. They never seem to run out, do they?

When people think it makes sense to spend $9600 sight unseen with someone they don't know from Adam, this is what you should expect. It's not really complicated. I'm not excusing it, mind you, but if some of the poulation wants to make it easy to pull this kind of rip-off, some of the poulation will take advantage of it.

Even if 99% of the population were honest, that still leaves 230,000 people out there ready to rip you off. That's reason enough to do at least a little homework before sending off $9600 hard earned dollars.

And I don't think it's 99%.


Edit to add: Looks like we're hearing another side of the story. This could be an interesting lesson to all, if folks want to learn from it. Lessons about looking before you leap, waiting to hear both sides, etc...

 

[hornett224]

that is exactly what he told me John.

sounds like he has gone above and beyond.i hope he registers here and helps clear this up.

i have a feeling this is the lift in question.

http://www.wwcequip.com/browse_inve...equip_manufacturer=AMERIQUIP&equip_model=2-45

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

I offered him the choice of posting something or me noting our conversation. He preferred to not come on himself, though was tempted.

There are 2 sides to a story, Tex is PO'ed and the broker understands.

Let's give this time to settle out before harassing the company any more then has been done.

 

[SBurkholder]

My name is Scott Burkholder. I am vice president of World Wide Construction Equipment. I have been in business with Bob Tressler for the past seven years. Bob has sold used construction equipment for the past 20 years. Our average annual sales volume is 10-13 million dollars. We are no fly by night outfit looking to rip off small businesses. World Wide Construction and Bob Tressler are respected throughout the industry.

It is common business practice, in the sale of used construction equipment, to have equipment funded before it is shipped. How often can you buy anything, and receive it, before you pay for it?

It is unfortunate that this gentleman received an unsatisfactory piece of equipment. Believe me, this is the last thing that we want to happen. Do you really think that we willing want to spend hours on end trying to come up with a solution to a problem? We WANT to sell good equipment at a reasonable price. Unfortunately, some sellers are not truthful about the condition of their equipment. If we receive pictures and a condition report, we can only proceed by trusting the seller. Of our sales in a year's time, 95% of them go smoothly.

Bob has tried to work things out with Tony. We have sent him $2,600.00 in return. WE have offered to repair the unit. We have followed through with due dilligence. It seems to me, for some reason, that he does not want to resolve this situation. It appears that he is taking some pleasure out of harrassing our company.

So, that's the story. It's always better to hear both sides of a situation before you start harrassing someone. Bob has received quite a few harrassing e-mails and phone calls. If it continues then our company will have to defend ourselves in whatever way, to end this situation.

Thank you,
Scott

 

[SBurkholder]

Dan,

I certainly appreciate your last post. Bob and I would like you to keep this thread up and running.

Being in the used construction equipment business, has taught me to be very prudent about the purchases of equipment. There are unscrupulous sellers out there. We take every precaution that we can to ensure that what we buy is decent.

It astounds me that one guy's post, that no one knows but through the internet, can create such turmoil. Threats of violence and harrassment based on one post, without verification.

Thanks again Dan,
Scott

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

It astounds me that one guy's post, that no one knows but through the internet, can create such turmoil. Threats of violence and harrassment based on one post, without verification.

One hopes that none of the calls you got from our members were threatening. The hyperbole in a number of the posts above are regrettable, but par for the course when dealing with a group of skilled tradesman.

I removed the contact info for your company as soon as I got off the phone with Mr. Tressler.

 

[2FatGuys]

One hopes that none of the calls you got from our members were threatening. The hyperbole in a number of the posts above are regrettable, but par for the course when dealing with a group of skilled tradesman.

+1 JPS....

Skilled tradesmen, in an inherently life threatening profession, tend to be VERY passionate about their work, their tools and their livelihood. That is why I kept trying to cool things down. Spending many years in architecture dealing with similar personalities, I learned that it is best to be well prepared before taking offensive positions. My kids remind me often that God gave us two ears and one mouth... so use the ears twice as much!

 

[arbor pro]

Good luck to both parties involved. Nobody wins when a deal goes sour. There is likely some liability on both parts but, that's for them to work out now. At least there's a dialogue between them now.

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

At least there's a dialogue between them now.

One hopes, it sounds like WCE is trying to do the right thing. If that does happen, then think of all the good publicity they got in our little group.

 

[Bigus Termitius]

One hopes, it sounds like WCE is trying to do the right thing. If that does happen, then think of all the good publicity they got in our little group.

little group? little group?!

Why we are a collective comic force of nature!

Did I say comic? I meant cosmic...sorry

One hopes that none of the calls you got from our members were threatening. The hyperbole in a number of the posts above are regrettable, but par for the course when dealing with a group of skilled tradesman.

I removed the contact info for your company as soon as I got off the phone with Mr. Tressler.

Take note...some pushed for a professional approach.

I've got some questions I'll be posting up.

 

[corndogg]

Bob Tressler e-mailed me back and explained his side of the story. Sounds like he has laid out a few options to make it right. I didn't mean to threaten him or anything. Texas made it sound like he was getting away with ripping him off. I just wanted to put the guys feet in the fire so this thing was not forgotten. So where's Texas and what's he got to say?

Maybe our pressure has helped and hopefully Bob and his people are professional and always handle problems well. I gotta say spending 10,000 over the internet is risky and this is the kinda thing that can happen easily. We're all wiser now. Gotta be tough selling used equipment as all equipment has it's issues.