Bob Wright
Addicted to ArboristSite
I just would like something that burns clean.
A big ole electric motor on that bar will be as clean as you can get ...Bob
I just would like something that burns clean.
A big ole electric motor on that bar will be as clean as you can get ...Bob
NO.
There are two domestic sources for good fuel for our O.P.E. First is the most known, TruFuel. It's very good.stuff, but yhe per gallon price ($20-$25) may be cost prohibitive. The second is SEF (small engine fuel) made by VP racing fuels. SEF can be purchased in larger quantities, up to 54 gallon drums. I personally have no experience with SEF but VP has a good reputation in the racing communities.
I spend a few days a month milling with a CSM for an average of 4 hours. I go through around 3 gallons of fuel. My real problem with the stuff we are using is that it doesn't burn to clean and I end up breathing it all day. That said, I've heard that Aspen2t burns cleaner. I wouldn't know because its not available in the US.
I guess the price per gallon thing isn't my problem. I just would like something that burns clean. Does the Trufuel or the SEF burn clean?
If you managed to find aspen you would need to also find aspen two stroke oil so that you could richen the mix.
I've experimented with adding 16oz to 32oz of Coleman Camp Fuel to each gallon of 100LL.
The trouble with such mixing is that Coleman fuel seems to vary from 55 octane to 70 octane depending on the batch, and on depending on who you ask.
Hey joe912 - What is O.P.E.? I wonder the same thing as betterbuilt above. Do these fuels burn as clean as the Aspen fuels?
O.P.E. = outdoor power equipment
I am currently using TruFuel50 and I'm quite happy with it. It's not noxious at all. Doesn't smell like roses and strawberries, but I don't find it offensive either.
As I said before, I have no experience with VP SEF94, but I would like to because of the availability of larger quantities. But getting it shipped to Alaska with the hazmat fees may be an issue. :censored::censored: and :censored:
Well the first email to return i'm assuming is from Aspen Canada but the reply came from Cesco Marketing Inc.?
here is the reply:
Hello:
Aspen fuel is not presently available in the USA.
It cannot be shipped via parcel post as it is gasoline and
of course is classed as dangerous goods.
In Canada we are only selling it in British Columbia so far.
Mike
I asked when it may be available but there was no reply to that...
obviously standard parcel/post is not going to ship fuels but thought id ask for any possible alternatives i may not be aware of...
Mikefunaro - the oil in aspen 2 is simply high quality full synthetic 2 stroke oil. Probably biodegradeable - perhaps like stihl ultra?
Eccentric - so coleman fuel (white gas) can be run in chainsaws? wow i did'nt think of that. pretty cool. I know white gas is highly refined to burn clean for stove application. I wonder if you could run it straight (w/ 2 stroke oil of course)? How clean burning is it in a saw? Would the variable octane rating make much difference?
joe912 - I will have to check out these fuel alternatives myself (trufuel50 and VP sef94). Thanks
Eccentric -
As far as the coleman fuel goes, well, I've done some searching here and the Octane rating seems to be the only issue w/ it. I hear it burns clean, there are no additives, and it's 50% alkylates.
So what could i add to coleman fuel (besides pump gas and AV fuel) to get the octane rating up higher? Would off the shelf octane boost work?
I have a couple of quarts of the 40-Fuel. RandyMac gave them to me to try. Haven't ran it yet. Wish it cost half the price.............. as then I'd be more likely to run it all the time. I don't go through that much 2-stroke gas anymore since I stopped riding dirt bikes much.
Is this the "40-fuel" your referring to?
if so, they have it at walmart... i saw 2 varieties the other day when i was in there... they had 40-fuel and 50-fuel... both were on clearance for $3.50 per qt...
Is this the "40-fuel" your referring to?
if so, they have it at walmart... i saw 2 varieties the other day when i was in there... they had 40-fuel and 50-fuel... both were on clearance for $3.50 per qt...
Is that an akylate fuel? Or is it just premixed pump gas w/ stabilizer in it?
Well - no reply from AA oil in the UK. Nor has there been a reply from Mike Acres. I'm not going to hold my breath....
I might try the white gas + octane boost. Anyone know how much boost to add or how to tell the octane level of a fuel?
:monkey: kirkeg NO BURN UP SAW!
...... Makes it a real pain if you wanted to switch back and forth from pump gas
Buying 100LL avgas is getting to be more dificult, at least in my area. They've moved the 'perimeter' outside the station that sells avgas at the airport. Gotta get 'on the grounds' before getting to the station now. Homeland Security stuff...
Well, that and the fact that it's illegal to use av gas in anything other than an airplane. Count on it getting MUCH harder to get av gas. Plan for something else, now.
There really IS an easy solution to all of this, though.
Buy premium at your local gas station, use a good quality oil, and stop worrying about it.
For every person out there scrambling around trying to find some way to run the perfect fuel in their saws, there are a thousand just using the locally available premium gas and good oil, and having NO trouble at all.
All my saws are run exclusively on Aspen - it keeps what it promise, very user friendly!
I use it as well in all (two) of mine. I don't think I've walked into a chainsaw store in the last few years that didn't sell Aspen.
I agree, it does seem to burn cleaner, we have run some mopeds on it as well. I think it's worth the extra cash.
Enter your email address to join: