Ban on wood-fired boilers-Its started.
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Rspike said:
Well, your buddy Al Gore recently said (and I'm NOT making this up) that tobacco smoking causes global warning.
Yeah, Al. But nowhere near as much as your f@rts.
Does not matter what i think ..........If i changed my mind today and took back every thing i said and posted..............
There would still be a ban on outdoor wood boilers and all the posted test information would be the same. Its not me you have to change , its the outdoor wood boiler companies that are needing up dated of there items.
There would still be a ban on outdoor wood boilers and all the posted test information would be the same. Its not me you have to change , its the outdoor wood boiler companies that are needing up dated of there items.
The votes are in. UPDATE
The ban gets pushed through.
Neighbors welcome wood-boiler ban
Monday, October 16, 2006
By JEANETTE DeFORGE
[email protected]
CHICOPEE - Neighbors forced to live in the midst of thick smoke nearly every day for a year breathed a collective sigh of relief when the Board of Health banned outdoor wood-burning boilers.
The three-member board voted unanimously to ban the boilers Thursday and gave owners 30 days to stop using and remove them.
The vote came one day after a state Housing Court judge ordered a Holyoke resident to stop using his outside wood-burning boiler in 30 days. The complaint was filed by city officials there.
"I am very pleased," said Arelia G. Tumidajewicz, whose Pendleton Street home is across the street from an outdoor boiler. "There is always an odor of smoke. You can feel it. It gets inside your house."
There are times when the smoke is light. Other times it is very heavy, but residents never know which it will be, she said.
She and her husband, Joseph T. Tumidajewicz, have been living with the smoke from the boiler for a year. They limit their time outdoors and can never open their windows.
At first no one was certain what to do about the problem because it was new. But when public officials started visiting neighbors of the outdoor boilers, they realized the extent of the problem.
Frank Boron, Board of Health chairman, said he visited the Tumidajewicz home once, and saw smoke from more than a mile away as he approached.
"I was there 10 minutes, and when I got home, my wife asked me if I was at a fire," he said.
While some residents said they are saving money on fuel costs with the outdoor boilers, the needs of the majority who face the pollution from them have to be considered, said Dr. Christopher R. Keroack, a board member.
"Wood smoke is dangerous. The smokestack is too short," he said.
Previously the Board of Health had set a moratorium on all new such boilers, but allowed the four they know of to continue operation. Two weeks ago the Board of Aldermen voted to ask health commissioners to extinguish the existing ones.
Paula A. Nowak said that when a neighbor installed one about 20 feet from her house they put off complaining, figuring it wouldn't run when the weather got warm. They were wrong.
Still, they didn't complain until the sale of their Loveland Street house fell through when the buyer backed out because of the smoke.
Eventually she and her husband, Edward J. Nowak, did sell, but at a lower price. Between that and the additional money in lawyer fees, the couple figures they lost between $20,000 and $30,000 over the issue.
"I'm happy they did this, I just wish it didn't take so long," she said.
The ban gets pushed through.
Neighbors welcome wood-boiler ban
Monday, October 16, 2006
By JEANETTE DeFORGE
[email protected]
CHICOPEE - Neighbors forced to live in the midst of thick smoke nearly every day for a year breathed a collective sigh of relief when the Board of Health banned outdoor wood-burning boilers.
The three-member board voted unanimously to ban the boilers Thursday and gave owners 30 days to stop using and remove them.
The vote came one day after a state Housing Court judge ordered a Holyoke resident to stop using his outside wood-burning boiler in 30 days. The complaint was filed by city officials there.
"I am very pleased," said Arelia G. Tumidajewicz, whose Pendleton Street home is across the street from an outdoor boiler. "There is always an odor of smoke. You can feel it. It gets inside your house."
There are times when the smoke is light. Other times it is very heavy, but residents never know which it will be, she said.
She and her husband, Joseph T. Tumidajewicz, have been living with the smoke from the boiler for a year. They limit their time outdoors and can never open their windows.
At first no one was certain what to do about the problem because it was new. But when public officials started visiting neighbors of the outdoor boilers, they realized the extent of the problem.
Frank Boron, Board of Health chairman, said he visited the Tumidajewicz home once, and saw smoke from more than a mile away as he approached.
"I was there 10 minutes, and when I got home, my wife asked me if I was at a fire," he said.
While some residents said they are saving money on fuel costs with the outdoor boilers, the needs of the majority who face the pollution from them have to be considered, said Dr. Christopher R. Keroack, a board member.
"Wood smoke is dangerous. The smokestack is too short," he said.
Previously the Board of Health had set a moratorium on all new such boilers, but allowed the four they know of to continue operation. Two weeks ago the Board of Aldermen voted to ask health commissioners to extinguish the existing ones.
Paula A. Nowak said that when a neighbor installed one about 20 feet from her house they put off complaining, figuring it wouldn't run when the weather got warm. They were wrong.
Still, they didn't complain until the sale of their Loveland Street house fell through when the buyer backed out because of the smoke.
Eventually she and her husband, Edward J. Nowak, did sell, but at a lower price. Between that and the additional money in lawyer fees, the couple figures they lost between $20,000 and $30,000 over the issue.
"I'm happy they did this, I just wish it didn't take so long," she said.
While I applaud any improvements that help outdoor boiler's emissions, I feel it's wrong for these 4 households to be given 30 days to stop using their heating source and yank them out. That's just the wrong way to do it. They at least should not be made to pay for the replacement heating system. They did, afterall, buy a perfectly legal heating system at the time.
personally--those four--and any more around the neighborhood that may want to get boilers--need to file a lawsuit against the board---theyll vote any thing down if they get away with that--
"She and her husband, Joseph T. Tumidajewicz, have been living with the smoke from the boiler for a year. They limit their time outdoors and can never open their windows."
Its cold enough out for those with Boilers to have them cooking, and these people have their windows opened???
Report sounds biased.
Its cold enough out for those with Boilers to have them cooking, and these people have their windows opened???
Report sounds biased.
Booshcat
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Chicopee is a city in Western Massachusetts.
I grew up south of Boston and never thought of Chicopee as some rural wilderness.
I bet these people are on pretty tightly packed parcels, where the neighbors are no more than a few hundred feet apart. I'll have to look in the W Ma media and see.
I grew up south of Boston and never thought of Chicopee as some rural wilderness.
I bet these people are on pretty tightly packed parcels, where the neighbors are no more than a few hundred feet apart. I'll have to look in the W Ma media and see.
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End This, Pleeeeessse !
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:sword: :sword: :bday: Somehow I am not supprised this is happening in the Peoples Republic of Mass.
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Booshcat said:
Chicopee is very citified,part of the urban sprawl of Springfield. 1/4 acre lots are the norm. Completely inappropriate for OWB's.
Up here in the "Republic of Vermont" the requirement is that the OWB be AT least 250 ft from the nearest neighbor's house otherwise the OWB dealer cannot legally sale you a boiler. The dealer is held legally responsible for this requirement. SO...........
Other late breaking CHICOPEE news....
The Ordinance Committee is recommending that inspection fees for smoke detectors and carbon monoxide detectors increase effective Jan. 1. The inspections are required during the sale of homes, and are charged to the seller.
The fee increases were requested by Fire Chief Stephen S. Burkott, who said that fees had not increased in many years and were needed to offset rising inspection costs including fuel used by department vehicles.
Currently, the city charges $10 for an inspection of any dwelling. As proposed, the board will consider approving an inspection fee of $25 for a single-family house, $50 for a two-family house, $75 for a dwelling with six or fewer units, and $250 for a dwelling with more than 6 units.
The Ordinance Committee is recommending that inspection fees for smoke detectors and carbon monoxide detectors increase effective Jan. 1. The inspections are required during the sale of homes, and are charged to the seller.
The fee increases were requested by Fire Chief Stephen S. Burkott, who said that fees had not increased in many years and were needed to offset rising inspection costs including fuel used by department vehicles.
Currently, the city charges $10 for an inspection of any dwelling. As proposed, the board will consider approving an inspection fee of $25 for a single-family house, $50 for a two-family house, $75 for a dwelling with six or fewer units, and $250 for a dwelling with more than 6 units.
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DanMan1 said:
I could easily be mad about such crap DanMan but instead I feel sorry for the poor folks who live under the control of local socialist regimes. For those that think Government controls are the answer I feel sorry for them too. That is why bans of OWBs are bad and believe me, they wont stop with boilers it will be all wood heat before they are done. You cant be for the ban of OWBs and for freedom and or wood heat. Sorry but it dont work that way with socialists.
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