I'd say thats pretty inline with what most mfg say.
Chainsaw 2 Cycle Oil Poll
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Usually , when you get within severe service applications the intervals are halved . In automotive vs heavy equipment trucks. 7k becomes 3 k & my normal 10 k in my diesel becomes 6 k . P.S. I just checked my Wifey's service contract with her 2 new Hyundia Kona's running Shell Helix Ultra 0w-20. 8 kilo intervals or 5000 mi. Since they are fleet vehicles with 10,000 seasonal milage , oil testing is lease compliant. I have checked the dip sticks prior to every oil change & it never moves & is barely dirty , prior to the dealer servicing . So times are changing even with the low viscosity sewing machine oil technology today . I retract my capillary action oil loss theory , apparently sealibility has improved since my tenure in Heavy Equipment lol.
Yep , pan drips & breather blow by pretty well sums it up . Back in the day 1 qt. every few thousand miles was normal . So , not complaining with just over 300, 000 miles on the odometer on a hot running diesel engine lol.
2 stroke oil threads are the best. I’m gonna switch from Red Armor 32:1 to Jaso certified amsoil at 100:1 with great film strength in my Cummins 5 qt sump 360 tomorrow. Thanks! Lol
I have been using Amsoil in every gas engine I own for over 20 years, both 2 & 4 cycle. I have not had 1 iota of problems with any of them. To each their own. Amsoil will continue being used in all my engines.
The DPF doesn't add on soot back into the motor. The EGR does.
Mine doesn't smoke or leak it just magically disappears
. Engine in my truck with 353,000 is a 4.3 vortec has a 4.5 qt capacity with filterIIRC my 01 24v had an oil capacity of 11 quarts with a Fleet guard filter, but it's been years so I could be wrong.
Never seen a 360 that didn't use oil. My dads impala with the 3.6 has a problem of keeping oil inside the engine i had to replace the gasket behind the oil filter housing twice.
Eh. You might not think so, but that is a mistaken notion. There is a very specific reason why the oil pans are built into the bottom of the truck like they are, and it isn't only because the oil runs downhill after circulating through the engine. granted, the oil cooler mechanisms are very important, but they are considered supplemental cooling to whatever cooling is done by the oil pan.
I bought a new Great Dane mower once, and immediately made an observation that the hydraulic oil would overheat. It was literally a 2 inch square tube arranged vertically, with only a 1 quart reserve capacity for the entire machine. I asked where the oil cooler was, and they said that that tiny tank sufficient. The "seller" was sadly mistaken, and had successfully dumped a overheating lemon on me.
I have dealt with many other hydraulic devices. Almost all of them rely on the sump volume and shape to acquire sufficient cooling for the circulating oil. For example: show me a picture of a log splitter that has an oil cooler on it.
I'm sure a log splitter oil cooler may exist somewhere, but I hope you'll acknowledge that the sump volume and shape are important cooling factors that any engineer would consider as part of the cooling system for the oil.
That particular engine had leaky valve guide issues for a period of time causing them to burn oil.Mine doesn't smoke or leak it just magically disappears
My first vehicle was a chevy ASTRO Van with a 4.3L.
They also were pretty reliable. My dad had one in a Chevy Work Truck that had 500K on the clock before it died.
Mine did since new.
Caddy Northstars, Saturn's and Olds Aurora motors where notorious for using oil in copious amounts.
An excellent point. As we can both agree, it's an engineering solution, and not quite so simple as saying the oil doesn't last as long in one machine vs a differently engineered vehicle.
Jim Jones convinced people to drink poison laced Koolaide. Marketing can be a powerful thing.
Although I never worked on one, I was told that Case backhoes many years back had two oil pumps: one on the front of the engine, and one on the rear. Just to make sure it got oil, regardless of the slope it was running on.
Mine is a 96 the only major work done to it was intake gaskets and i replaced the distributor. The people i got it from used Schaeffer fluids since new.
It runs the best and has excellent oil pressure 60 psi cold and 50 hot.
They also have 10 or 12 gallons of oil and several filters
I do like Amsoil Dominator, and to a lesser extent, terminator....errr.. interceptor in dirt bikes. About 17 years or so ago I spent a lot of time and some money getting my kids' dirt bikes set up and tuned as perfectly as I could (my bikes suffered a bit as a result, haha).
I used elf, yamalube, honda HP1?, Amsoil dominator and interceptor, motul 7 and 800, and a couple of others. I was trying to get as much fuel (and oil) thru them as possible while still burning cleanly. After a couple of months of making changes, I settled on dominator. It was the only oil (aside from the elf, which I preferred, but it was hard to find in my area) that I could jet down to around 32:1 without spooging. I like the silencer tip mid, maybe light brown and almost dry. Just a bit darker than a good plug.
A couple of those bikes are still with my one son. He finally just rebuilt the full motor of his very well used 200xc. Probably 3-350 hours on that one bottom end alone. We both felt the rod and such, and looked at the whole works that we could see with a good magnifying glass. It still felt good, there could have been a tiny bit of thrust washer wear is all, almost inconceivable at that point, we thought. Everything still rolled around as smooth as glass. The powervalve had never gunked, etc, etc. We had been checking thru many top end changes all along, of course. There was always residual oil, a nice piston wash, and overall good signs of adequate lubrication with a nice burn. Anyway, that motor had huge hours on it with lots of mx racing and offroad racing and general riding at a high-mid pack to sometimes very fast local expert level. The motor was still tight. He did the full motor anyway. My son got that bike as a young teenager and rode and raced it until he was a young man. From 140lbs to 195lbs. With tons and tons of deep sand riding on one of his practice tracks right here on the farm.
Now it is his wife's, all mechanically rebuilt nearly as new again.
The CR125 (ahem, 144) he still races from time to time has never been split, all the same products tested early on and maintenance done the same way thru the years. Tho not as many hours on it with a far tighter maintenance schedule.
There's a couple of other runners laying around of similar vintage with low hours (100-200) that have never been split either.
I ran lots of amsoil thru saws over the years too. Lately it's been lucas in the saws. Almost out of that. Good. Never again. It stinks badly for sawing and it doesn't perform as well as I'd like. It seems to form some carbon, for one thing. I bought it on a whim and didn't do any research. It's not a great oil, methinks.
I thought the dominator, and perhaps to a lesser extent the interceptor performed well over the years. It's also a testament to the durability of these particular bikes, which were chosen carefully for just that. As all my sons' racing buddies' 4 strokes broke down and had to be rebuilt, or were sold before they broke, the 2 strokes just kept on going like energizer bunnies.
I don't mind Amsoil Dominator at all.
I used elf, yamalube, honda HP1?, Amsoil dominator and interceptor, motul 7 and 800, and a couple of others. I was trying to get as much fuel (and oil) thru them as possible while still burning cleanly. After a couple of months of making changes, I settled on dominator. It was the only oil (aside from the elf, which I preferred, but it was hard to find in my area) that I could jet down to around 32:1 without spooging. I like the silencer tip mid, maybe light brown and almost dry. Just a bit darker than a good plug.
A couple of those bikes are still with my one son. He finally just rebuilt the full motor of his very well used 200xc. Probably 3-350 hours on that one bottom end alone. We both felt the rod and such, and looked at the whole works that we could see with a good magnifying glass. It still felt good, there could have been a tiny bit of thrust washer wear is all, almost inconceivable at that point, we thought. Everything still rolled around as smooth as glass. The powervalve had never gunked, etc, etc. We had been checking thru many top end changes all along, of course. There was always residual oil, a nice piston wash, and overall good signs of adequate lubrication with a nice burn. Anyway, that motor had huge hours on it with lots of mx racing and offroad racing and general riding at a high-mid pack to sometimes very fast local expert level. The motor was still tight. He did the full motor anyway. My son got that bike as a young teenager and rode and raced it until he was a young man. From 140lbs to 195lbs. With tons and tons of deep sand riding on one of his practice tracks right here on the farm.
Now it is his wife's, all mechanically rebuilt nearly as new again.
The CR125 (ahem, 144) he still races from time to time has never been split, all the same products tested early on and maintenance done the same way thru the years. Tho not as many hours on it with a far tighter maintenance schedule.
There's a couple of other runners laying around of similar vintage with low hours (100-200) that have never been split either.
I ran lots of amsoil thru saws over the years too. Lately it's been lucas in the saws. Almost out of that. Good. Never again. It stinks badly for sawing and it doesn't perform as well as I'd like. It seems to form some carbon, for one thing. I bought it on a whim and didn't do any research. It's not a great oil, methinks.
I thought the dominator, and perhaps to a lesser extent the interceptor performed well over the years. It's also a testament to the durability of these particular bikes, which were chosen carefully for just that. As all my sons' racing buddies' 4 strokes broke down and had to be rebuilt, or were sold before they broke, the 2 strokes just kept on going like energizer bunnies.
I don't mind Amsoil Dominator at all.
That's a fact. We ran 40,000 K oic on all our trucks with common rail Cummins and Detroit's yet all the trucks with Series 60's we did at 20,000 since they're kind of a dirty pig of an engine.
Who makes this red armor ye all are such fans of?
Update edit; found this. Is this correct? "It's blended and bottled by the Spectrum corporation a division of Phillips 66."
Update edit; found this. Is this correct? "It's blended and bottled by the Spectrum corporation a division of Phillips 66."
