First off, thank you to all for the kind words, I'm pleased with how it turned out. Secondly, unlike cordarrow, I have no cadcam program. I do have cad. Thirdly, assuming Brad doesn't understand how things are machined is just plain wrong. The machining wasn't that difficult. Creating a font (go ahead and try to find it somewhere, good luck) and insuring that the right surface area was removed from the muffler was the difficult part. It was all point to point programming. The cutting itself took minutes. The "engineering" of the font so it looked right and was creating the right surface area and manually programming took hours. It was more than just importing text from somewhere and then having a post processor spit out the code....