confused and mystified!!??!!!#@&%$#. 372 recoil

[singinwoodwackr]

The big ring groove worn in to the pulley might be an indication something is not right.
See how half the H is missing?
The two clean halves on the pawl bolts look a bit suspect.
Your rope tail and knot are sitting a little proud of the pulley.

Looks like the pulley was gouged out by the pawl screws. Are they tight?

 

[david newbie]

Im thinking that the extra gallon of gas in the crankcase 3as creating a bunch of resistance on retraction. Is that possible?

 

[singinwoodwackr]

Im thinking that the extra gallon of gas in the crankcase 3as creating a bunch of resistance on retraction. Is that possible?

Gee, ya think?

 

[Bob Hedgecutter]

Grab your starter in your hands- look at it and look at the photo of @singinwoodwackr 's one- see how his is nice and flat sitting inside the orange surrounds?

As for the blue wire- follow its path- where does it go- what does it do? Does it have any bearing on creating spark- or is it to do with extinguishing it?

As for the hydro locking- it will add resistance- but if the recoil were not binding mechanically, I would hazard a guess the rope would still retract- just somewhat slower.

Could someone have had the pawls off that wheel and fitted them with the springs jammed under not around the shank?

 

[david newbie]

well, it starts and runs! I still get this sense of resistance when I blip the throttle, made me wonder if the chain brake was on, but it's not. Previous owner used vegetable oil that turned to glue, and I wonder if that gumming up the works somewhere, but not sure as it has a clutch but no clutch drum

 

[Bob Hedgecutter]

So, so far- we are about par for the course.

 

[david newbie]

Grab your starter in your hands- look at it and look at the photo of @singinwoodwackr 's one- see how his is nice and flat sitting inside the orange surrounds?

As for the blue wire- follow its path- where does it go- what does it do? Does it have any bearing on creating spark- or is it to do with extinguishing it?

As for the hydro locking- it will add resistance- but if the recoil were not binding mechanically, I would hazard a guess the rope would still retract- just somewhat slower.

Could someone have had the pawls off that wheel and fitted them with the springs jammed under not around the shank?

I have a feeling that all of singingwoodwakers saws are nicer than mine......... ( except my shindaiwa 680!)

 

[Bob Hedgecutter]

I have a feeling that all of singingwoodwakers saws are nicer than mine......... ( except my shindaiwa 680!)

Its not how clean or nice looking it is!
Look at the variations.

 

[david newbie]

removed the clutch, and resistance to throttle blipping went away. It was all gummed up behind there with polymerized veg oil, and it didn't even have the clutch drum. So that's my next purchase

 

[david newbie]

I think for now I will call it good on the recoil. Seems good now, and runs decently

 

[david newbie]

Looks like the pulley was gouged out by the pawl screws. Are they tight?

will have to check those. I did discover that the flywheel nut was not fully tight

 

[idiotwithasaw]

Ok I would check and see how worn the pully is on the spindle, when they get worn they get in a bind and won't retract. If it has any side to side wiggle it probably needs to be replaced. Judging by the grooves I think this may be your problem.

 

[idiotwithasaw]

removed the clutch, and resistance to throttle blipping went away. It was all gummed up behind there with polymerized veg oil, and it didn't even have the clutch drum. So that's my next purchase

I wouldn't run the saw with the clutch drum removed, it could damage the clutch, case and brake band. But it sounds like you are on the right track

 

[singinwoodwackr]

removed the clutch, and resistance to throttle blipping went away. It was all gummed up behind there with polymerized veg oil, and it didn't even have the clutch drum. So that's my next purchase

Now you check that, lol

 

[david newbie]

Now you check that, lol

I knew it was lacking the clutch drum!!!!!!! I just dint know that there was "glue" behind the clutch................

 

[singinwoodwackr]

I knew it was lacking the clutch drum!!!!!!! I just dint know that there was "glue" behind the clutch................

You ran it without the drum?

 

[singinwoodwackr]

I have a feeling that all of singingwoodwakers saws are nicer than mine......... ( except my shindaiwa 680!)

Have one of those on the way…

 

[david newbie]

You ran it without the drum?

Please don’t tell my mom

 

[Bob Hedgecutter]

Please don’t tell my mom

Na, get it going before you get a clutch drum- set up a video camera and rev the shite out of it.
Preferably while standing near the front of your wife's car.........

 

[Old2stroke]

A few points:
How the starter retracts has nothing to do with the crank moving, should retract freely even if crank is locked.
NEVER run a saw with no clutch drum, if the springs snap or extend too much, the clutch shoes can come free and become lethal projectiles.
NEVER run a saw with a newly installed clutch and drum but no chain and bar unless you are absolutely sure the clutch has been properly tightened on the crank. Rev it up and when you back off on the throttle, the clutch continues to spin, unthreads itself and falls off the saw doing about 10,000 rpm.