neither...masonry chimney/fireplaceAre we talking inserts here or pre fab fireplace? Most inserts I am familiar with don't have room for an actual flue damper. Fireplace, yes you need a damper.
neither...masonry chimney/fireplaceAre we talking inserts here or pre fab fireplace? Most inserts I am familiar with don't have room for an actual flue damper. Fireplace, yes you need a damper.
I said a flue damper can be used in place of a barometric damper... I didn't say it was automatic.That's not quite right. A barometric damper is used most times to automatically maintain a constant draft. A key/pipe damper is restricting draft all of the time, unless it is set wide open. My baro is closed 90% of the time, but when the wind blows it opens & prevents overdraft. Set it & forget it.
Mine is open 90% of the time...My baro is closed 90% of the time
I don't have one...Mine is open 90% of the time...
When someone says your a modern stove needs a barometric damper to adjust draft, and then says your modern stove can't use a flue damper... well... that's just silly. If a barometric damper can be used, a flue damper can be used in it's place... plain and simple. A flue damper, used correctly, actually does a better job than a barometric damper because it keeps more heat in the box and doesn't cool the flue gasses.
That's not quite right. A barometric damper is used most times to automatically maintain a constant draft. A key/pipe damper is restricting draft all of the time, unless it is set wide open. My baro is closed 90% of the time, but when the wind blows it opens & prevents overdraft. Set it & forget it.
I don't believe I've suggested using the key damper is such a way... but suppose an idiot might.If you were to open the air intake but close the flue damper all the way...
"They" don't want you to have that much control of your appliance... "they" believe you are and idiot that needs to be protected from yourself.
A flue damper, used correctly...
The problem with a flue damper is you might screw it up and smolder the fire (causing evil particulates to be emitted )...
You don't own a EPA certified stove... but ya' still believe in the magic, don't ya??Cue bloviating pseudoscientific twaddle in 10, 9, 8......
Dunno what size you are going with, but I'd make sure it is big enough to get a stainless steel liner down it once you go to an insert. A flue big enough to work well with a fireplace will be too big to work correctly with most modern stoves, a liner solves that problem. Also, if most of the chimney is external to the house, a insulated SS liner will improve draft immensely!He has never built one seen a chimney with a round flue tile in it.
The brick and tiles were purchesed from the largest supplier here in North Alabama.
The supplier told him this is the first time they have ever ordered round flue tiles.
I requested round tiles.
And then you'll need a key damperAlso, if most of the chimney is external to the house, a insulated SS liner will improve draft immensely!
And some sorta rube Goldberg device to operate it seeing as how it is sealed up and out of reach behind the insert facing.And then you'll need a key damper
Sorry... couldn't help myself.
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iffin he was a awake fireplace maker,,he should have done the research long ago, that says that round tile liners,,FLOW, and square ones RESIST flow...corners....Up-Date
We are going to get a Flue Damper installed in our new Full Masonry Fireplace and Chimney.
The door of the damper will be removed when the insert is installed.
If , and that is just an if, we ever remove the insert the damper door can be re-installed then.
Our brick man has been building Chimneys for 50 years.
He has never built one seen a chimney with a round flue tile in it.
The brick and tiles were purchesed from the largest supplier here in North Alabama.
The supplier told him this is the first time they have ever ordered round flue tiles.
I requested round tiles.
Question: What is a Key Damper????
I am quite sure I know what Sour Owl Crap is.
Thanks
David
Not necessarily.And some sorta rube Goldberg device...
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