2000ssm6
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Should be pretty close. It can be upgraded to a 7900 if more power is needed......by installing a 7900 piston and cylinder.
I might be thinking about the 6401...........Freak?.......Scott?
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Dolmar PS5100-6100 vs Stihl ms361
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Should be pretty close. It can be upgraded to a 7900 if more power is needed......by installing a 7900 piston and cylinder.
I might be thinking about the 6401...........Freak?.......Scott?
SawTroll
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It will likely outcut the 361 at a slight margin in larger wood, but weights allmost 2 lbs more........
The 361 is a truly excellent allround saw.
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Ole Farmerbuck
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Na.....get the 372xp!Get the 361
2000ssm6
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What, what, what??? A 372 mentioned in a 361 thread????
Hey, I wonder if the 361 can cure the "drip"?
Ole Farmerbuck
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Uh oh....where have you been? lol I wont tell.What, what, what??? A 372 mentioned in a 361 thread????
Hey, I wonder if the 361 can cure the "drip"?
Zodiac45
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+1 same here. Always have my 120si and one of it's bro's for backup.
Yes the 6400/6401 will outperform a 361. It's a bigger saw built on a larger chassis. There are also some very good deals on the Makita version right now.
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I had a 6400/6401 and now have a 361. Stock, I think the 6400 will outcut it. There is a weight penalty, but both are great saws. Bucking firewood, the 6400's extra weight wouldn't be noticed much.
Now, a point that seems to be seldom raised about the 5100. The 5100 uses a different bar mount that the 64/73/7900. The Stihl 260/361/440/441/460/660 all use the same bar mount. If you add another saw (what are the odds on an AS member adding another saw), if you stay with Stihl, you can reuse bars. Just something to consider.
Oh, you will buy lots more saws. You understand that, right?
joat
Now, a point that seems to be seldom raised about the 5100. The 5100 uses a different bar mount that the 64/73/7900. The Stihl 260/361/440/441/460/660 all use the same bar mount. If you add another saw (what are the odds on an AS member adding another saw), if you stay with Stihl, you can reuse bars. Just something to consider.
Oh, you will buy lots more saws. You understand that, right?
joat
SawTroll
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For a 20" bar, yes!
The downside on the 6400 is that it weights just among the 70-80cc saws, and does't have the power.
I agree that the weight doesn't matter much for stationary cutting though.
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A very, very simple question!
ST,
Have you run a broken in 6400/1? I had a 372XP at the same time I used my 6401, and to me, there was not a lot of difference in their ability to buck firewood. The 6401 felt as smooth as the 372XP (there' that vibe thing) and if there was a little less power, it was not readily apparent.
BTW, I really don't know or care what DLG, et al, says about the 6400/1 because it is a fine saw, as is the 372XP.
Peace,
joat
For a 20" bar, yes!
The downside on the 6400 is that it weights just among the 70-80cc saws, and does't have the power.
I agree that the weight doesn't matter much for stationary cutting though.
ST,
Have you run a broken in 6400/1? I had a 372XP at the same time I used my 6401, and to me, there was not a lot of difference in their ability to buck firewood. The 6401 felt as smooth as the 372XP (there' that vibe thing) and if there was a little less power, it was not readily apparent.
BTW, I really don't know or care what DLG, et al, says about the 6400/1 because it is a fine saw, as is the 372XP.
Peace,
joat
J.Gordon
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If you are considering a 6400 and want power just go ahead a get the 7900, same weight but it has the power to put a smile on your face. It’s well balanced with a twenty inch bar and can handle a 32’’ with ease if the need arises.
I have a 5100 for the small stuff and a modded 7900 for everything else.
If I could have one saw only it would be the 7900 because of the size of some of the trees I cut.
If they were a tad smaller (still one saw) I would pick a 361 and would get it woods ported. Then you would have a lightweight power house that has dealers everywhere.
Even though the Stihl is expensive, even more so with a woods port, (not as much as a 7900 though) it would be worth it in the long run if it can handle your big trees.
If not, the 5100/7900 make a real sweet pair, but their even better after you ad EHP to them.
I have a 5100 for the small stuff and a modded 7900 for everything else.
If I could have one saw only it would be the 7900 because of the size of some of the trees I cut.
If they were a tad smaller (still one saw) I would pick a 361 and would get it woods ported. Then you would have a lightweight power house that has dealers everywhere.
Even though the Stihl is expensive, even more so with a woods port, (not as much as a 7900 though) it would be worth it in the long run if it can handle your big trees.
If not, the 5100/7900 make a real sweet pair, but their even better after you ad EHP to them.
SawTroll
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Of course it is a fine saw, but a .4 kW difference doesn't just vanish into thin air - specially not when the strongest saw have a 4-channel cylinder, and the other one a 2-channel......
With some wood, chain and gearing combinations it will make a big difference, and in others hardly any - that is just the way it is......
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ciscoguy01
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Where in NY are you?? I'll let ya run my 5100, or my 7900. Longevity is a question, both are still fairly new saws. Mine seem pretty well built, good as anything else out there. It's a plastic world ya know. Cases are Mag on them, tanks and accessories are plastic like everyone else nowadays. 6400 is ALOT of saw compared to a 029. How much wood do you cut? How large is it? We'll start there. And don't forget to tell me how far you are from Plattsburgh eh?
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Where in NY are you?? I'll let ya run my 5100, or my 7900. Longevity is a question, both are still fairly new saws. Mine seem pretty well built, good as anything else out there. It's a plastic world ya know. Cases are Mag on them, tanks and accessories are plastic like everyone else nowadays. 6400 is ALOT of saw compared to a 029. How much wood do you cut? How large is it? We'll start there. And don't forget to tell me how far you are from Plattsburgh eh?
eh?Of course it is a fine saw, but a .4 kW difference doesn't just vanish into thin air - specially not when the strongest saw have a 4-channel cylinder, and the other one a 2-channel......
With some wood, chain and gearing combinations it will make a big difference, and in others hardly any - that is just the way it is......
ST,
Well, if we wanna have an arms race, get a 660 or an 880 or a 395 or a 3120. Gee!
If a 6400 has enough power for his application, then why not consider it? You drive a Volvo, right? Why not a BMW or a Porsche? Those extra xxx kW didn't just vanish now, did they?
Now, a 361 is a nice saw. The thread starter, whom we should be focused on, has been pushing around an 029 for years. I've done that and I've run a 6401. melly-mel would be absolutely giddy with a 6400/1.
joat
2000ssm6
Stihl User
You have your facts wrong. The 440/460/660 do not use a 4 channel design, leaders in their classes......torque monsters.......chains don't stop on a dime.........
SawTroll
Information Collector
LOLOLOL!!!!!
No they don't, that is why there are all those old posts here stating that the 372xp run right on the heels of the 460 in the cut, and the 440 was an also-ran.
BY now, we know that this probably is only true when you can keep the rpms pretty high (above max hp rpms), but the reason is mainly the 4-channel design, that give you a better high-end performance.
2000ssm6
Stihl User
A 372 running with a 460??? LOL, you must use a bar longer than 16". You guys have the rpms but no torque.
SawTroll
Information Collector
I was referring to old posts here - it may be true in some cases, but surely not overall.....
....kinda the same as with Joatmons 6400 vs 372xp story......
O he!!, just go right out and get the Stihl MS880. Never have to worry about enough power ever again. 
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:smoking: O he!!, just go right out and get the Stihl MS880. Never have to worry about enough power ever again.
But wait, the weight.
Heavens, what shall I do.
