treemandan
Tree Freak
The 80's were over the last time I checked though.
yeah but not for you. I know you tune into that " I love the 80's" on VH1
Drinking on the job,do you allow it?
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yeah but not for you. I know you tune into that " I love the 80's" on VH1
treemandan
Tree Freak
Really? You feel like an ass for being the only sober guy on a crew that is supposedly doing life endangering work? Get the hell out of there and don't worry about it. When you drink a few beers how do you feel? Well those guys feel the same way; DRUNK!
treemandan
Tree Freak
Man those guys sound like they have worked up quite a tolerance for beer. It amazing. What if one of those cans falls out in the drive of a client?
tree md
Addicted to ArboristSite
We will stop and throw some beer in the cooler before we get out of town. We will usually pop a top once we have made our dump but from that point it is a 2 mile ride home on the back road. I guess they could get me for open container but I live in the backwoods of Oklahoma... Not many Johnny Laws out this way. 
I used to take a beer if a customer offered but turn it down now. Wouldn't want to get pulled over hauling a load with beer on my breath. Just not worth the risk...
That was back in the good old days though, haven't had a beer in three weeks now... And it SUCKS!!!
I used to take a beer if a customer offered but turn it down now. Wouldn't want to get pulled over hauling a load with beer on my breath. Just not worth the risk...
That was back in the good old days though, haven't had a beer in three weeks now... And it SUCKS!!!
IcePick
ArboristSite Operative
When I was younger, I use to do side work with some buddies who would tell me to meet them at the shop at 6:00 am SHARP!
I'd show up and sure enough, like I thought, they already had the beer cracked open.
Most days we would spend the day driving around in the chip truck, going to jobs and then making excuses not to do the job! "oh, that car is parked way too close to the tree, we can't do this, lets go to the bar and wait for that person to move the car."
Man, working with those guys was absurd. I can recall one week where I was in the negative. I showed up for work every morning, didn't make more than $100, but ended up spending around $500 at the bar that week. (yeah, I was no better than they were)
I'd show up and sure enough, like I thought, they already had the beer cracked open.
Most days we would spend the day driving around in the chip truck, going to jobs and then making excuses not to do the job! "oh, that car is parked way too close to the tree, we can't do this, lets go to the bar and wait for that person to move the car."
Man, working with those guys was absurd. I can recall one week where I was in the negative. I showed up for work every morning, didn't make more than $100, but ended up spending around $500 at the bar that week. (yeah, I was no better than they were)
banshee67
Poulan Wild Thang
first i must say i live in new jersey, so compared to you, my outlook on most things are TOTALLY different, especially matters involving police ( we have one every mile , hiding)
i have to ask.. why cant you just wait till you drive those 2 miles back to your lot/house or wherever u you park and THEN pop some open?
its none of my business but it seems like that 2 miles is a short distance to wait for what could be a load of tickets and/or arrest over something like a bottle of beer? just wait the 2 miles then drink the first beer twice as fast when you get home, no?
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logging22
Cuttin to live, livin to cut
Logging and drinking? Just dont work. Most days im lucky not to get killed not drinking. Couldnt imagine trying to log while drunk. Guess those fellas are just special. And really dumb.
tree md
Addicted to ArboristSite
Old habits. I am actually old enough to remember when you could legally ride around with a beer between your legs as long as you were not drunk driving. No justification for doing it now. I suppose I could have never mentioned it. I imagine I could tell you that I never speed either but that would be a lie. Fact is, I am not a perfect person and don't always follow the letter of the law. I doubt many on here do. At least I am honest about it. I don't drive drunk. And if the cops wanted to they could pull over all the working Joes around here and most would have a beer between their legs on the way home... But like I said, not many cops around here.
And to be perfectly honest, the road is the same road that I take into my hunting area. I fish there as well. Our town's chief of police runs cattle on the land we hunt. I see him often at the gate and say hello...with a beer between my legs...I had a local cop stop by the dam where me and my dad was fishing right on the low water dam that the gravel road crosses last year. We had a cooler with some beer in it and had about 4 empties in a plastic bag I was using for garbage. Me and my dad also had one between our legs. The cop asked if the fish were biting and if we had caught anything. We told him no and he said good luck and good bye. That's how it goes in the backwoods of OK. It's also why I prefer to live here and not Jersey.
tree md
Addicted to ArboristSite
Banshee67,
Just so you know, this is the road and area we are talking about. My dump location is maybe 200 yards from this spot:
Bottom line, drinking on the job is a stupid idea. I don't think anyone in their right mind would say drinking and running a chainsaw is a good idea. Let alone climbing or driving with a heavy load.
Just so you know, this is the road and area we are talking about. My dump location is maybe 200 yards from this spot:
Bottom line, drinking on the job is a stupid idea. I don't think anyone in their right mind would say drinking and running a chainsaw is a good idea. Let alone climbing or driving with a heavy load.
All this talk about drinking and I just remembered I left my beer on the counter and it's getting warm. I work the night shift and when I got off this morning I went and dug out 4 pine stumps for my friends HOA. I couldn't get my stump grinder to them. When I got home, I pulled one of the last two Fat Dogs out of the frig. Whenever I take my daughter back to school, in Reading Pa, I stop at a steak house micro brewery and get a couple six packs of their special brews. The name of the steak house is Stoudts. I really like their Octoberfest and the one I have now is an Imperial Oatmeal Stout, called Fat Dog. It has a picture of a big old Black Lab on the bottle. I took her back to school before the big snow storm and brought home 2 six packs and I have 1 left now, Joe.
treeclimber101
UNCLE BUCK
Absolutely , daily suds and sawdust, that makes me a better climber , and the ground guys like to smoke crack in the prisoner cabs when were on our way home , then when we get into the yard we like to taze each other completely naked....It this not occupationally sound behavior???
tomtrees58
Addicted to ArboristSite
The dog's probably a decent driver.
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Maybe things have changed since then, but back in 1992 my sheriff got seriously drunk at a Michigan Sheriffs' Association meeting. I'm sure he wasn't the only one either. Why do you need booze at law enforcement leadership meetings?
Then he proceeded to drive home with my undersheriff riding with him. State troopers caught them for DUI on M-50, so naturally they tried to blame it on the troopers who caught them. If it weren't for 'professional courtesy', the Jackson County sheriff wouldn't have let them (or any other drunks from that meeting) out of the parking lot without handcuffs.
tree md
Addicted to ArboristSite
When I was 21 I worked part time nights at a liquor store in my small hometown. I did it more to get hooked up with a girl that worked there than the small amount of money I made. We had a small city police force, I think we had 6 officers. LOL, the Sargent was an older guy who liked to drink. He would call ahead of time to the manager at the liquor store where I worked and I'd meet him out in the back alley with a pint of liquor. He'd pull up in his cruiser and pay me cash for it right in the alley. He was the same officer that would breakup fights in the Food Lion parking lot where the teenagers would congregate when I was a kid. He'd break up the big fight of the night, go car to car and make everyone pour their beer out then send everyone home. It was a whole different world back then. It is surely a new day today. But then again we didn't have teenagers carrying guns and killing each other either.
Also, when I was a kid I worked at the Elks Club setting up chairs and tables, helping prepare banquets for weddings and functions, working as a bar runner during parties and functions and cleaning up afterward. Every one of the old guys that I worked for there were alcoholics I would say. They were also all ww2 vets. We had one great big old guy who would buff the floors every Saturday morning. He was in his 60's or 70's and was still a brute with muscles coming out of his head. We would take a break every Saturday morning, the chef (old Army cook) would fix a big old breakfast and we'd all sit down and eat together. The old guy who buffed the floors would drink 2 Hienikens every morning with his breakfast. Most of them that worked there would drink all day long from the manager on down. I figured that if they had fought and survived ww2 they had earned the right to drink everyday, as much as they wanted til the cows came home if they wanted.
There are alcoholics in every profession. I've had to deal with it on my jobs before. I had to fight one guy to make him leave my job site when he showed back up from lunch drunk. If someone wants to drink I could care less. But find a job where you can get away with it. It's not going to happen in my operation. I used to like to drink more than my share too but I never brought it to my job and I won't tolerate it out of anyone who works for me.
Also, when I was a kid I worked at the Elks Club setting up chairs and tables, helping prepare banquets for weddings and functions, working as a bar runner during parties and functions and cleaning up afterward. Every one of the old guys that I worked for there were alcoholics I would say. They were also all ww2 vets. We had one great big old guy who would buff the floors every Saturday morning. He was in his 60's or 70's and was still a brute with muscles coming out of his head. We would take a break every Saturday morning, the chef (old Army cook) would fix a big old breakfast and we'd all sit down and eat together. The old guy who buffed the floors would drink 2 Hienikens every morning with his breakfast. Most of them that worked there would drink all day long from the manager on down. I figured that if they had fought and survived ww2 they had earned the right to drink everyday, as much as they wanted til the cows came home if they wanted.
There are alcoholics in every profession. I've had to deal with it on my jobs before. I had to fight one guy to make him leave my job site when he showed back up from lunch drunk. If someone wants to drink I could care less. But find a job where you can get away with it. It's not going to happen in my operation. I used to like to drink more than my share too but I never brought it to my job and I won't tolerate it out of anyone who works for me.
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banshee67
Poulan Wild Thang
Banshee67,
Just so you know, this is the road and area we are talking about. My dump location is maybe 200 yards from this spot:
Bottom line, drinking on the job is a stupid idea. I don't think anyone in their right mind would say drinking and running a chainsaw is a good idea. Let alone climbing or driving with a heavy load.
thats a road!?! yea.. little different than jersey! lol
squad143
Tree Guy
If I have a beer with the guys, it is at the end of the day, back at the shop (my house) while cleaning the saws. And then only one if they're driving home.
A company I know of lost a good government contract because his workers got caught drinking on the job. They were working on a military base and the residents reported them. He wasn't even there at the time.
A company I know of lost a good government contract because his workers got caught drinking on the job. They were working on a military base and the residents reported them. He wasn't even there at the time.
