Whole lotta quotes to go through here, bear with me.
\IH has been dead since the 80's when Case bought them. They were killed a second time in the late 90's when New Holland bought Case and even deep-sixed the IH name. They made several good tractors (dunno 'bout the 624), but they're gone and parts get harder to find every year.
You pay more for Deere because Deere is still alive and mostly supports their past products.
True, except for parts availability. I can still get parts for my M Farmall over the counter, and I'd bet for any 30 series Case, probably older as well, and a 9N Ford at my local CNH (CaseNewHolland) dealer. Do a little research before posting my friend. Try to find parts for a JD5430 SP chopper next time you're in your Deere dealer...
Careful now.... Or I'll send pics of the Kioti DK65 getting the 4640 out of a real jam... In the 65 hp class, I'd put the one I got up against ANY other. 1100 hours and counting... Just saying...
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No pics, didn't happen. With pics, you may be the coolest Koyotee tractor owner on the planet!
I'd rather have a 20 HP 4x4 than a 50 HP 2x4.
If you want a JD without the price, get an early to late 80s Yanmar. They made the JDs.
Here's a few decent machines in NH.
Ford 1910 Compact Utility 4x4 Diesel Tractor Loader
**BOLENS TRACTOR**
Same Tractor 4x4 With Cab
kubota 1750 tractor loader diesel 4x4
1997 NEW HOLLAND-FORD 1725 TRACTOR
Yanmar built the -50 and -70 series Deeres, I believe the 4000 series is built in GA now with some (mostly?) Yanmar parts.
I'll take ya up on the 20HP 4x vs 50hp 2x tractor any day. Hook onto whatever your lawn mower will drag, and me and my old farmall will drag your tractor and the load the other way. Power, traction, ballast, and a good operator will overcome a driving front axle any day. (Oldtimer, I've read enough of your posts to respect ya quite a bit, but that statement's over the top and you know it)
This is so true. I work on a fair amount of tractors for people and parts are a real problem for the older tractors that there companys have sold out or are completely gone like white. Stay with John deere they hold there value and you can get parts.
Want White parts? Oliver parts? Minneapolis Moline parts? Cockshutt parts? Allis Chalmers parts? Massey Harris parts? Go to your local Agco dealer. Chances are they sold those tractors new back in the day and know all about em. AGCO still has parts for the infamous AC rotobaler in stock. If they'll fix one of them godforsaken pieces of excrement, they'll dang sure sell ya tractor parts.
Want an orphan tractor you cant find parts for? Try Porsche or Lamborghini (look it up folks, they both made tractors!)
TJ-Bill, whatever you get just make sure it is four wheel drive. You can get a John Deere 1070 4WD 40hp for around $6500
4x4 is important on little tractors with loaders. The bigger the tractor gets, the less important the MFD is for loader use.
Are you dead set on a tractor? do you want to put a mower or other impements on the tractor? Are you are mainly looking to use it for wood prossessing and hauling ? Have you thougth about a skidsteere . You can lift heavy logs with a set of forks and cary them to your landing site, push brush or drag the tree to where you want to do your cutting and splitting . skidsteere's are alot harder to get stuck than a tractor you can always use the bucket to push your self out of the mud if you get stuck . If you have no experiance with a tractor and try to lift heavy logs on side hill it is possibal to flip the tractor over . If you have a heavy load on the loader the rear of the tractor gets very light .with a skidsteere is less likely to flip . I have a skidsteere and use of a tractor the tractor is only 20ish hp with a loder but I can say I would never give up the skidsteere it is much more use full to me . they do make blower attachments for skidsteeres also. Good luck with any thing you purchase.
Screw it, I'm not starting this fight again. Buy a dang tractor and enjoy it, or get a $#@@ skidsteer and ##### about how much the attachments cost, how it tears up the yard every time you turn around, how much the parts are, how big of a pain in the butt it is to get to everything you need to fix on it, how fast it sinks to the belly pan in mud, how much it costs for the 3/4 ton truck and 10,000GVW trailer to haul it from place to place with, and how big of a pain it is to put the steel tracks on just to go somewhere in bad conditions. Nope, not gonna start that fight. Skid steers are WAAAY better than tractors. You heard it here first folks.