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Cottonwood stinks like<a href="http://www.sweetim.com/s.asp?im=gen&lpver=3&ref=11" target="_blank"><img src="http://content.sweetim.com/sim/cpie/emoticons/000201D8.gif" border="0" title="Click to get more." ></a> If you dig some roots around the stump or take some twigs and break them it would smell much like root beer if its sassafras. Also one glimpse of the branch's would clear it up but looks like cottonwood poplar in the pic! It is fairly heavy when green but lightens fast if cut.
 
first one, ive been told is locust.. and from what ive read sounds about right, its like cutting iron, and is very bright yellow inside, is it a type of locust?
(ignore the poor sawmanship, i pinched (and bent) my bar on my 350 yesterday)
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this next one i have no clue.. its in a elevated 20-30 acre feild full of those locusts (above), these, and cherries
alot of this kind are starting to die and rot, they are growing so close together, they seem to grow in groups of 4-5 trees right next to eachother all 50+ ft tall, they seem to be kind of light in weight(even the fresh live healthy ones) compared to the locust or cherry, and they cut pretty darn quick
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The first pics are black locust and the others are chestnut oak the locust is the schit for firewood and likewise the oak is good wood ...And you say how is treeclimber know well the zone which we live in full of them and that I have probably cut at 500 of each you have some good wood there my friend ..
 
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nope you wrong its sassafras chestnut oak does not lose its bark easy look again i have Ben a tree surgeon for 36 years now and 4 years of school man the first course was dendrology :cheers:tom trees
 
That was my thoughts exactly.

If the original poster would put up some pics of the smaller branches, we might be able to really tell. So far, this is just a "guess-meet".

ill be back at the spot this weekend maybe.. ill get some good pics of the way these things grow in packs everywhere
il get some pics of the branches and stuff as well

also a GIANT ill geta pic of, biggest on the farm, i think its an ash or poplar maybe, 50 yards from natural spring fed pond, thing is SO thick as the base
 
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nope you wrong its sassafras chestnut oak does not lose its bark easy look again i have Ben a tree surgeon for 36 years now and 4 years of school man the first course was dendrology :cheers:tom trees

Listen maybe in NY thats a sassafras chestnut oak but here in my neck of the woods we like to limit species to two parts and that there is a chestnut oak and the other is clearly blacklocust and since I have both right here on my prop. which I will back up with pics today I am fairly certain, Hey I here up in NY state you have pinesprucefir trees ...LOL:cheers:
 
Listen maybe in NY thats a sassafras chestnut oak but here in my neck of the woods we like to limit species to two parts and that there is a chestnut oak and the other is clearly blacklocust and since I have both right here on my prop. which I will back up with pics today I am fairly certain, Hey I here up in NY state you have pinesprucefir trees ...LOL:cheers:

Just to clarify! I think tom meant it was a sassafras. And that chestnut oak does not lose its bark. Not, that it was a combination of the two tree's.:dizzy:
 
Just to clarify! I think tom meant it was a sassafras. And that chestnut oak does not lose its bark. Not, that it was a combination of the two tree's.:dizzy:

Everything thats grows loses it bark when its dead , but anyway I understand what your saying but I am quite sure of what I am looking at there a dime dozen here and easy to identify , thanks for the input and sorry for being brash.
 
Everything thats grows loses it bark when its dead , but anyway I understand what your saying but I am quite sure of what I am looking at there a dime dozen here and easy to identify , thanks for the input and sorry for being brash.

Brash is nice....right it nicer.

Did you notice this from the OP?

alot of this kind are starting to die and rot, they are growing so close together, they seem to grow in groups of 4-5 trees right next to eachother all 50+ ft tall, they seem to be kind of light in weight(even the fresh live healthy ones) compared to the locust or cherry, and they cut pretty darn quick

Sound like any oak you've ever seen or cut? How about the strong fragrant smell?

Sassafras.
 
Brash is nice....right it nicer.

Did you notice this from the OP?



Sound like any oak you've ever seen or cut? How about the strong fragrant smell?

Sassafras.
Well its not an oak its a chestnut oak they grow in groups often close together in large numbers , they have no Rhyme nor reason remember there not nursery stock , and being in Missouri how could you accurately identify a coastal tree being inland as far as you are , they are a fragrant tree agreed there but that is often intensified by decay and location , furthermore I have looked at the zone map and Missouri isn't included so unless you've visited than how would know that I am wrong, I would not question someone from your neck of the woods on tree ID ..if there was a tree that wasn't here in Jersey ..Have you ever smelled a chestnut tree pewwww..
 
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Brash is nice....right it nicer.

Did you notice this from the OP?



Sound like any oak you've ever seen or cut? How about the strong fragrant smell?

Sassafras.
Well since sassafras is a seasoning than he can go to a cooking store and smell what it is and than maybe there will be an answer..
 
You won't find sassafras in very many stores anymore. Some researchers fed enough to some rats to make them get cancer. Despite the fact that it has been in human use for hundreds of years and has never been associated with cancer in humans, it went off the market.

I remember liking sassafras tea when I was a kid.
 
You won't find sassafras in very many stores anymore. Some researchers fed enough to some rats to make them get cancer. Despite the fact that it has been in human use for hundreds of years and has never been associated with cancer in humans, it went off the market.

I remember liking sassafras tea when I was a kid.

Well we still burn in our BBQs for taste in small cans , and were OK I guess ...:dizzy:
 
i never knew one piece of wood would get such a debate going:chainsaw:
i will get pictures of the second species in question, standing/living, theres a bunch of clusters of them all over, weather sucks, might be a week
 
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